From: ALFRED BARKSDALE <adkb**At_Symbol_Here**COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] alternative etchant for metal samples
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2021 01:21:53 -0500
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Some idiots hereabouts in Minneapolis also used HF to deface public structures and some not public. They were caught because a chemist at the Minneapolis Institute of Arts figured out what they were using and helped police find the source and make  arrests. No further events since then, Fingers crossed.
On 06/08/2021 1:44 PM Joseph Smith <information**At_Symbol_Here**canaverallaboratories.com> wrote:
 
 
In Philly they load HF into paint pens and use it for Graffiti on Glass surfaces.  They mangled up some very expensive sculptures, glass doors, train windows and more with that.
 
Joe Smith
 
 

On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 1:56 PM Yaritza Brinker < YBrinker**At_Symbol_Here**fele.com> wrote:

I'm glad to see work happening on this area.

 

HF has been unavoidable in metallography. Particularly with aluminum alloys where practically all standard etchants call for it and it's often used in combination with concentrated HCl and HNO3. Picric is another acid that is hard to avoid in metallography.

 

It would be great to see more safer etchants developed and added to industry test standards so that their use can extend outside of academia where labs are bound by a2La accreditation rules.

 

Keep up the great work!

 

Yaritza Brinker

260.827.5402

 

From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU> On Behalf Of Andy Glode
Sent: Tuesday, June 8, 2021 9:55 AM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU
Subject: [DCHAS-L] alternative etchant for metal samples

 

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Hi all,

 

I am late in sharing a significant innovation one of our students, Nick Ferreri, made last year that will be of interest to this group. I presented safety training to a group students who were planning to use HF as an etchant. Nick took it upon himself to research alternatives to HF and developed a method that eliminated HF use from his preparation method for titanium samples. The alternative method uses ethylene glycol, ethanol, sodium chloride, and a low voltage charge. Please note that concentrated acids and high voltage are not used in this etch method, completely avoiding the major hazards historically associated with titanium metal preparation for electron microscopy. And, the resulting etch is better than if the sample had been etched with HF. Please share this with colleagues who may use HF to etch titanium and titanium alloys.

 

The published article describing the method is here:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1044580320303363

 

Thanks!

Andy

 

Andy Glode, MS, CIH

Interim Director

Office of Environmental Health and Safety

University of New Hampshire

O: 603-862-5038; C: 603-534-9872

https://www.unh.edu/research/environmental-health-and-safety

 

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