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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] solvent drums
Date: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 3:08:56 PM
Author: Zack Mansdorf <mansdorfz**At_Symbol_Here**BELLSOUTH.NET>
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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] solvent drums
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 21:19:19 +0000
Author: Yaritza Brinker
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From: Monona Rossol <0000030664c37427-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**LISTS.PRINCETON.EDU>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] solvent drums
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 20:19:53 +0000
Reply-To: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU>
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From my understanding, it depends on where the pallet and/or drums are. If you postulate the failure of a container by whatever means, and the container is in any location where that spill would go to soil, ground water, a body of water, storm drain,or a drain leading ultimately to a waste treatment facility. it needs to be on or in containment.
Monona
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From: Dan Nowlan <dnowlan**At_Symbol_Here**BERRYMANPRODUCTS.COM>
To: DCHAS-L <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU>
Sent: Tue, Apr 23, 2019 3:01 pm
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] solvent drums
We've certainly seen mangled and pierced drums before, but it's thankfully a rare occurrence and usually done at the hands of freight companies!
Drum containment solutions can be impractical if you have more than a few drums or have space constraints. We have limited storage in our outside (covered) containment area and have to store some stuff inside. Flammables,
biocides, chlorinateds, SARA 313s, particularly environmentally hazardous chemicals (NP-9, for instance), etc. go in the containment area. (Mineral acids and bases would, too, but we don't use any.) Combustibles, petroleum and silicone oils, lubricant additives,
and other less hazardous chemicals go in the warehouse on pallets. It may not be ideal, but it's the best we can do, given our space limitations, and the fire marshal and insurance company seem to be OK with it.
From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety [DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU] on behalf of Peter Zavon [pzavon**At_Symbol_Here**ROCHESTER.RR.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 13:32
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] solvent drums
Not that there is a RULE, but I would always store in spill containment and ground if at all possible.
We had a fork lift once puncture a drum when trying to pick it up for a move. Perhaps you don't run fork trucks near your drums, or are not supposed to at any rate, but there are other ways of initiating a spill,
including a faulty or damaged drum not noticed on receipt.
Peter Zavon, CIH
Penfield, NY
PZAVON**At_Symbol_Here**Rochester.rr.com
From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU]
On Behalf Of Yaritza Brinker
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:15 PM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
Subject: [DCHAS-L] solvent drums
Hello,
Our new unopened drums are stored on a wood palette until they are needed. A colleague recently suggested that new unopened drums should be stored on a spill containment platform instead of the palette. However, I have visited plenty of
facilities where new unopened drums are stored directly on the concrete floor. Is there a rule on this? Where can I find it?
Also, there's some debate as to whether or not new unopened drums need to be grounded while in storage?
Thanks,
Yaritza Brinker
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