From: Samuella Sigmann <sigmannsb**At_Symbol_Here**appstate.edu>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Justification for lower cap for teaching labs
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 12:00:09 -0400
Reply-To: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU>
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Hi Harry - I found this from an NSTA document.

For educational science laboratories, the requirement is 50 square Feet net per person or 4.6 square meters net per person (NFPA 101 - 2012 Occupant Load Factor table 7.3.1.2 ‰?? Shops, laboratories, vocational rooms, pg. 101 - 74).

http://static.nsta.org/pdfs/OvercrowdingInTheInstructionalSpace.pdf

That table is on page 84 in the 2018 version.
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On 8/29/2018 11:26 AM, Harry J. Elston wrote:
Jim - can you point to a reference for that?å SBC (Southern Building Code), IBC (International) or other?

Thanks,å

Harry

On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 9:24 AM James Kaufman <jim**At_Symbol_Here**labsafety.org> wrote:
Pam,

Take a look at the building occupancy load in the building/fire codes.å It is normally limited to 50 sq ft per person in labs in educational occupanies.å

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On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 8:57 PM Pam <aubu**At_Symbol_Here**hotmail.com> wrote:

Currently the labs classes here are capped at 32. I know that the ACS recommends no more than 25. Are there any other sources I can quote as a draft a letter to our Dean to lower the cap in chem labs. We are a two year school so when I say that labs are capped at 32 that would be ONE pair of experienced eyes in the room. There are no TAs.å


I am also looking into the square footage of the roomå


Right now I am working with groups of 4 so not all students are getting a true lab experience. Some are just watching


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