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From: davivid <davivid**At_Symbol_Here**WELL.COM>
To: DCHAS-L <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU>
Sent: Fri, Jan 27, 2017 5:31 am
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] EPA Freezes Grants, CDC cancels climate change conference

Folks...

Being politically active or not is not a partisan trait. It is a
decision to participate in how we are governed.

Dave

On 26/1/17 7:56 AM, Beth Shepard wrote:
> Hello all--
>
> A critical fact that seems to be getting lost in the political discussion
> into which this chain has veered.
>
> The research data being removed & the scientists being restricted do not
> "belong" to the previous or current administrations, or to Congress. It &
> they "belong" to the American people. The taxes from All Americans has paid
> for & continues to pay for the research & the salaries of these scientists.
>
> As such, any removal &/or deletion of data due to political points is an
> attack on the American people, not "cleaning up of sites" to reflect the
> new administrations points of view.
>
> Anyone has the right to believe climate change is a hoax, right up until it
> floods his Manhattan tower. However, I helped pay for that data & I
> personally resent & will loudly object to its deletion from the scientific
> discussion.
>
> Beth
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 5:59 AM, Alan Hall <oldeddoc**At_Symbol_Here**gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Et al,
>>
>> Bottom line, folks, striped-pants or whatever you wear liberals lost (as
>> did our country for the past 8 years) in the legally-conducted election
>> according to the way our Founding Fathers designed things. Street protests
>> and violence are never the answer. Of course, contact your elected
>> representatives and express your opinions (and don't hold your breath,
>> hypoxemia and hypoxia are not good things), but wait and see never hurts,
>> either. The opposit of Murphy's Law, Yhprum's Law, is that, sometimes,
>> things go right.
>>
>> And Monona, if Texas ever decided to enact its option as the only State
>> that ever joined the US voluntarily and does have the right to secede ever
>> does so (John Steinbeck once formed a group to promote this), while I have
>> no clout whatsoever in TX government, I'd ratify your visa application.
>> Everybody needs gadfies, no matter what their opinion.
>>
>> And, yes,I did go to the CSB meeting on the West,TX disaster. I was a
>> volunteer firefighter just once upon a time,and we lost brothers and
>> civilians there. Dumb can't necessarily be fixed and stupid never can be.
>> And letting anybody sue anybody for nothing whatsoever isn't a good idea,
>> either. Ddifference of opinion. Right of free speech. The Alien and
>> Sedition Act is long gone. As the person siad: "I don't agree with what
>> you say, but I will defend to my death the right for you to say it.."
>>
>> Alan
>> Alan H. Hall, M.D.
>> Medical Toxicologist
>> Formerly,SP4, US Army
>> Major, USAFR (Hon. Ret).
>> and a pretty good blues/jazz/rock guitarist and composer
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 12:32 PM, Lawrence Tirri <larry.tirri**At_Symbol_Here**unlv.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Everyone,
>>>
>>> I respectfully disagree with the suggestion that we patiently stand
>>> around to wait and see. It begins with EPA funds and contracts, I will
>>> suggest that the same will happen with the Depart. of Energy, etc. I
>>> expect funding will dry up for NIH, NSF and other agency grants as well.
>>> Furthermore, I think the "gag order" will be applied across most federal
>>> agencies. Perhaps, only the Department of Defense will come out of this
>>> with only a little pain.
>>>
>>> If we do not speak out now for science and our brothers and sisters in
>>> federal governmental agency positions, ask yourselves who will speak out
>>> for us when we are similarly restrained.
>>>
>>> Dr. Larry Tirri
>>>
>>> Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
>>>
>>> University of Nevada, Las Vegas
>>>
>>> Las Vegas, NV 89154-4003
>>>
>>> 702-895-4281 <(702)%20895-4281>
>>>
>>> larry.tirri**At_Symbol_Here**unlv.edu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *"The only two certainties in life are change and death. If we choose to
>>> embrace change and become part of the process, we leave behind a legacy
>>> that will live on forever, or you may choose the alternative."*
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 6:26 AM, Alan Hall <oldeddoc**At_Symbol_Here**gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Et al,
>>>>
>>>> Us ol' re-tread Texans might say: Y'all might just wait awhile and see
>>>> what happens. Let's as scientists and health & safety folk not go beserk
>>>> over doomsayer's media and other bird droppings. In a long career, most of
>>>> what is popular hype seems to be what an ol' time cowboy might find behind
>>>> the southerrn end of a northbound bull.
>>>>
>>>> I suggest a period of what we in medicine call "watchful waiting" before
>>>> we go flying off the handle. I used to teach my medical students: "Don't
>>>> just do something, stand there." The situation somestimes evolves out of
>>>> what seems to be chaos (Chaos Theory for those who follow it). Sometimes,
>>>> the best medicine is to do as much nothing as possible. I think I've cured
>>>> moer folks by stopping medications than I ever cured by prescribing same.
>>>>
>>>> According to my lovely wife: Patience is a virtue.
>>>>
>>>> Alan
>>>> AlanH. Hall,M.D.
>>>> Medical Toxicologist
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Lee Latimer <lhlatimer**At_Symbol_Here**mindspring.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "...science and reason matter." ---B. Obama, 2017.
>>>>>
>>>>> As a community, we vote in high %. Let's be active, speak up, support
>>>>> science, and let legislators know that we vote as much as any group.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lee
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/23/17, 9:03 PM, "ILPI Support" <info**At_Symbol_Here**ILPI.COM> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> And so it begins. The first one is disturbing because this is right up
>>>>> there with the climate change gag order we have previously seen in Florida-
>>>>>
>>>>> "EPA Freezes Grants, Tells Employees Not To Talk About It, Sources
>>>>> Say": http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/environmental-protection
>>>>> -grants-staff_us_5886825be4b0e3a7356b575f?pon75akll8ei5dn29&
>>>>>
>>>>> And it gets worse: https://www.axios.com/trumpwor
>>>>> ld-prepares-to-hammer-the-epa-2209021483.html "...The document goes
>>>>> on to recommend what can be done to "improve the use of science by EPA...
>>>>> EPA should not be funding scientific research-" I guess that makes it
>>>>> easier to use alternate facts.
>>>>>
>>>>> And finally, "CDC Cancels Conference on Climate Change and Health":
>>>>> http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdc-cancels-confer
>>>>> ence-climate-change-health-n711076
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't care who the president or administration is - this isn't about
>>>>> them or who you voted for or against. It's about science and its role in
>>>>> setting government policy. We need to do what we can as a community to
>>>>> educate the public on the critical contributions of agencies like EPA, OSHA
>>>>> (that one should be even more fun-) etc. and that these need to be based on
>>>>> science, not a special interest agenda.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rob Toreki
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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