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Monona brings up a(nother scary) point of this "demonstration", the (often) presence of glycerine in the sanitizer. This is so analogous to a Molotov Cocktail (gasoline and oil, for those not familiar with it). The oil makes it all the more destructive and deadly. j
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> I agree whole heartly about the woeful lack of training, but what this also demonstrates as a lack of understanding of physical chemistry, flammability and a number of basic principles.å That goes back to the level of training in just plain chemistry and physics. This is preventable if the individual chemist/teacher simply cogitates.
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> That cogitation would also involve looking at the SDS of the sanitizer because some contain enough aloe, glycerin or other thickeners to keep this stuff clinging to hands and burning longer and hotter than plain alcohol.
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> And I'm not good at predicting the behavior of children (or adults for that matter), but if avoiding burns depends on a specific defensive action by the child, that also is a huge risk factor that must be considered.
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> Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Teacher resigns after lighting student's hands on fire in science experiment
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> As a high school chemistry teacher who has taught for going on 25 years I have had one (yes...å I said one) safety presentation (2 hours) (from Flinn Scientific) to train in safetyå matters. This was after teaching for many years. The student teaching experience had /zero/ opportunities (and as of 2018 (my last student teacher) it still doesn't)).
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> Additionally, this happenedå at a middle school. For /years /now middle schools have been hiring elementary education majors who /may /have had 1 science course in their bachelor program. They have zero safety training (I would put $$$ on it). They are undertrained.
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> What this teacher did went against all levels of common sense and should have never happened, I am not trying to defend her, but trying to make you aware of theå woeful lack of experience and safety training that is in the K-12 school systems in America.
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> Christal Lippincott
> Craig High School
> 608-743-5371
> Room 304 x4027
> Teacher: AP Chemistry, Honors Chemistry, and Chemistry
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> On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 10:09 AM Neal Langerman
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> Rob this CBS report has a clip of the activity near the end.
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> https://www.google.com/search?q=granberry+middle+school+fire+video&oq=granberry+middle+school+fire+video&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i299.42974j0j7&client=ms-android-verizon-us-rvc3&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8# <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dgranberry%2Bmiddle%2Bschool%2Bfire%2Bvideo%26oq%3Dgranberry%2Bmiddle%2Bschool%2Bfire%2Bvideo%26aqs%3Dchrome..69i57j33i299.42974j0j7%26client%3Dms-android-verizon-us-rvc3%26sourceid%3Dchrome-mobile%26ie%3DUTF-8%23&data=04%7C01%7Cjoseph.diverdi%40COLOSTATE.EDU%7C97e539a11d3b460a67f808da197d2219%7Cafb58802ff7a4bb1ab21367ff2ecfc8b%7C0%7C0%7C637850322483398504%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=o2hbt5KmlI4xmUg9kBWei1Qqon%2B4%2F6lyzcVPRbTn6Rg%3D&reserved=0>
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> Neal Langerman, PhD
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> On Fri, Apr 8, 2022, 06:57 Info
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> Can someone find the videos on social media? I have no social media presence or savvy. Thanks.
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> The recent lull has now been broken‰?| https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/04/07/texas-teacher-sets-students-hands-fire/9498190002/ <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.usatoday.com%2Fstory%2Fnews%2Fnation%2F2022%2F04%2F07%2Ftexas-teacher-sets-students-hands-fire%2F9498190002%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cjoseph.diverdi%40COLOSTATE.EDU%7C97e539a11d3b460a67f808da197d2219%7Cafb58802ff7a4bb1ab21367ff2ecfc8b%7C0%7C0%7C637850322483398504%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=TZhis1DyYSBOib%2BkocbTLu7u21JkQJKc82TGNu67iX0%3D&reserved=0>
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> A Texas middle school teacher has resigned after putting handå sanitizer on a student's hands then lighting them on fire, leaving theå student with third degree burns.
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> A 37-year-old teacher at Granbury Middle School was conducting aå science experiment last week when she put hand sanitizer on theå hands of a 12-year-old student and lit them on fire, according to aå statement from the Granbury Police Department.
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> The experiment was conducted with other students withoutå incident, but the 12-year-old suffered third degree burns on hiså hands.
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> "The Granbury Police Department responded to Granbury Middleå School for a report of a student who had been burned on campus,"å the statement said.
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> The Granbury Independent School District,å in a tweet postedå Tuesday, said the teacher resigned and is no longer an employee ofå the district.
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> The Granbury PD said the incident is under investigation and "will be submittedå to the District Attorney's Office for review."
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> Additional reports.
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> https://www.today.com/parents/parents/science-teacher-hands-sanitizer-fire-rcna23446 <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.today.com%2Fparents%2Fparents%2Fscience-teacher-hands-sanitizer-fire-rcna23446&data=04%7C01%7Cjoseph.diverdi%40COLOSTATE.EDU%7C97e539a11d3b460a67f808da197d2219%7Cafb58802ff7a4bb1ab21367ff2ecfc8b%7C0%7C0%7C637850322483398504%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=oqHhDgFRSt3gJmEwiG9FSx3edNx1dxiO5o3iSQUYL9U%3D&reserved=0>
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> It looks like every class that day had a group of students that volunteer to do it,"å Grizzardå told NBC affiliate KXAS. "There was also another classroom that waså doing the same thing where there was no incident.
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> https://ktemnews.com/not-good-texas-teacher-resigns-after-purposely-lighting-students-hands-on-fire/ <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fktemnews.com%2Fnot-good-texas-teacher-resigns-after-purposely-lighting-students-hands-on-fire%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cjoseph.diverdi%40COLOSTATE.EDU%7C97e539a11d3b460a67f808da197d2219%7Cafb58802ff7a4bb1ab21367ff2ecfc8b%7C0%7C0%7C637850322483398504%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=65NhUefrlIHdqmXlJIHJMF9lWXkFxlNc9HQL9IHPPIA%3D&reserved=0>
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> https://www.fox4news.com/news/granbury-isd-teacher-resigns-after-student-burned-in-science-experiment-gone-wrong <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fox4news.com%2Fnews%2Fgranbury-isd-teacher-resigns-after-student-burned-in-science-experiment-gone-wrong&data=04%7C01%7Cjoseph.diverdi%40COLOSTATE.EDU%7C97e539a11d3b460a67f808da197d2219%7Cafb58802ff7a4bb1ab21367ff2ecfc8b%7C0%7C0%7C637850322483398504%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=%2F0pO%2FBUXZ6NYe2O06gfIl5DgdDfCCsczVzXJFyB6Ix0%3D&reserved=0>
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> Lt. Grizzard says investigators have interviewed several students and areå reviewing a possible video of the incident circulating on social media.
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> "My first thought was that it definitely sounded irresponsible," he said. "Butå you know, again, whether it's criminal or not is not up to us to decide. That'så going to be the DA's office that decides that."
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> FOX 4 reached out to the Hood County DA's Office, but it declined to commentå on a pending investigation.
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> Lt. Grizzard says the teacher could be charged with injury to a child. But heå says the DA could also decide to send the case to a grand jury for review.
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> https://meaww.com/granbury-middle-school-student-burned-after-teacher-puts-sanitizer-on-hands <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeaww.com%2Fgranbury-middle-school-student-burned-after-teacher-puts-sanitizer-on-hands&data=04%7C01%7Cjoseph.diverdi%40COLOSTATE.EDU%7C97e539a11d3b460a67f808da197d2219%7Cafb58802ff7a4bb1ab21367ff2ecfc8b%7C0%7C0%7C637850322483398504%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=wz4AAAqacbjCzpSnMHxHaVK9NfYXLdinvZpikDzz%2FbM%3D&reserved=0>
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> The student's parents took to Facebook to share some visuals of the horrifying incident.å The father also informed readers that his son received due treatment and had beenå discharged.
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> Online, many parents were taking sides ' while some defended the teacher, many otherså called the experiment "inexcusable". An angry parent said that "putting a flammableå substance on bare hands and igniting it is not a science experiment. It's just stupid."å Another said that "there's absolutely NO excuse for putting a child in danger like that!!'
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> Some sources toldå CBSå that the incident happened after a class finished a test early andå the teacher asked students if they wanted to see something "cool".
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> Photos and videos posted online show the blisters from serious burns the studentå suffered. A video shows the student quickly putting out a fire on his hands, which waså covered in sanitizer.
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> Dr. Anthony Pizon, chief of medical toxicology at UPMC in Pittsburgh, said, "Handå sanitizers with high concentrations of ethanol and hydroxypropyl are flammable. Anyå amount of hand sanitizer can light on fire. The volume controls how rapidly the flame willå spread. If you have a little bit on your hands, a little bit will light on fire
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> Looks like if the district took half as much effort at reviewing laboratory safety as they did their library, this wouldn't have happened: https://cjtackett.medium.com/granbury-isd-is-reviewing-books-a0579c36588e <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcjtackett.medium.com%2Fgranbury-isd-is-reviewing-books-a0579c36588e&data=04%7C01%7Cjoseph.diverdi%40COLOSTATE.EDU%7C97e539a11d3b460a67f808da197d2219%7Cafb58802ff7a4bb1ab21367ff2ecfc8b%7C0%7C0%7C637850322483555497%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=9otRBtLN0Ws9%2Fvo3pdB9agVhcYYL%2Bg59sUq3QoUOH4A%3D&reserved=0>
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