From: Monona Rossol <0000030664c37427-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**LISTS.PRINCETON.EDU>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] [External] Re: [DCHAS-L] New article for ACS Chemical Health & Safety is available online.
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 14:41:40 +0000
Reply-To: Monona Rossol <actsnyc**At_Symbol_Here**CS.COM>
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That's why they are called "students."   All they really tell you is if they like the conditions and feel comfortable.  They have no experiences outside of the university to compare with, and they don't have enough expertise to know what the conditions should be.

This bad policy is part of the governmental error to make universities operate like businesses.  In a business the client is king -- no clients, no business.  In a university, this philosophy puts the inmates in charge of the institution.  

You don't attract students with discipline, hard work, and academic requirements.  You attract them with fun, comradery, and a quick easy path to a degree whose title sounds like you will be able to get a good job.  This is NOT the generation with the most education.  It is the generation with the most degrees.

Monona




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From: Samuella Sigmann <sigmannsb**At_Symbol_Here**APPSTATE.EDU>
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU
Sent: Mon, Jan 31, 2022 9:17 am
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] [External] Re: [DCHAS-L] New article for ACS Chemical Health & Safety is available online.

I have not yet read the article, but in reply to Richard's reply I would say this is why I was always skeptical about using student evaluations to determine the quality of instruction in a class.

Sammye

On 1/31/2022 6:56 AM, Richard Palluzi wrote:
So a good article but you will pardon my skepticism about treating surveys like real data.

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