From: Richard Palluzi <000006c59248530b-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**LISTS.PRINCETON.EDU>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] New article for ACS Chemical Health & Safety is available online.
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 06:56:14 -0500
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My problem with articles that draw conclusions from surveys is that the data in is often, at least in my opinion, inaccurate or just plain wrong.

 

I routinely see safety audits that reveal gapping holes in safety programs even though the organization ranks their performance in these areas as good to excellent. My personal experience with academic research laboratories is that while safety awareness is getting better it certainly is far from as good as that found in most industrial research laboratories. And many of them still routinely over estimate the effectiveness of their programs.

 

Years ago I worked for an organization that annually surveyed all its members on management’s commitment to safety. Within a few years the results were almost uniformly excellent. Why? Because every time a group expressed anything less the manager assured them they were wrong and encouraged them to rethink their answer next year. Everyone rapidly got the message. In another organization my comments on their awful MOC process was challenged by an internal survey that ranked it highly. My reply was to note that several individuals had volunteered that they loved the new system because it did not ask them to do much work to get an approval like the old system.

 

So a good article but you will pardon my skepticism about treating surveys like real data.

 

Richard Palluzi

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