From: John Callen <jbcallen**At_Symbol_Here**GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] [EXT] Re: [DCHAS-L] New Video Series | ACS Matters | August 18, 2020
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 20:11:26 -0500
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Jim and ALL:

I wholeheartedly agree with Dr. Kaufman.

In addition, I used to call on PepsiCo and at that time in the 1980's & 1990's Kraft-General Foods at their corporate headquarters in Purchase, NY and White Plains, NY respectively as well as several Pepsi Bottling Plants.  They did have SDS's for a number of their beverage and food stuff products.  As you may know, Pepsi's concentrate syrup contains phosphoric acid in it.  That got me to wonder if is an SDS for dark or blackstrap molasses.  In checking the internet, I found at least three of them and all call out the requirement of wearing eye protection and gloves because dark or blackstrap molasses is both an eye and skin irritant!  I've attached one of them from the link below and although the molasses is used as a flavoring for livestock feed, it was the most current of the ones I looked at.

https://www.cfd.coop/msds/1317625%2020160223%20Nutriad%2013176-SDS-Liq%20Blackstrap%20Molasses.pdf

Also, she is not just pouring the dark or blackstrap molasses from a small bottle into a measuring spoon or cup for a recipe to make Boston Baked Beans, gingerbread cookies or Shoofly Pie.

Be Safe, Secure & Sound, Vigilant as Always and Stay Well!

All My Best,

John B, Callen, Ph.D.
3M Personal Safety Division - Retired
ACS/DCHAS Founding Member
(312) 632-0195





On Aug 20, 2020, at 6:22 PM, James Kaufman <jim**At_Symbol_Here**LABSAFETY.ORG> wrote:

They are badly mistaken.

The young woman is holding a glass beaker.  If she drops it, she could have glass in her eyes. She should be wearing safety glass with side shields. 

Please ask them to reconsider.   ... Jim

PS.  "There's more to lab safety than just labs!"

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On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 10:48 AM Gmurczyk, Marta <M_Gmurczyk**At_Symbol_Here**acs.org> wrote:
Dear All:

 Thank you for this discussion. I have communicated with my colleagues in Communication and they assured me that they have discussed safety,  performed RAMP analysis and concluded that the risk of splashing is minimal, and concluded that  the image was appropriate to use. My colleague who directs our communication also wrote:

"As you know, we take safety very seriously and in this Untold series, the host does wear safety equipment when appropriate, but there are very limited experiments, so not a big production issue. In hindsight, we could have selected a better thumbnail for the ACS Matters article that wouldn't have given the misconception of a safety violation."

I obviously did not look carefully at the context before reacting despite the fact that we work hard here to reinforce risk management and critical thinking rather than just compliance with rules.  Good learning for me.

Again, I appreciate this discussion and support for ACS safety programs.

Marta




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Subject: RE: [DCHAS-L] [EXT] Re: [DCHAS-L] New Video Series | ACS Matters | August 18, 2020
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Good morning John,

It is interesting to me that the two safety professionals from UCLA (me the former ACHO and Chris Kolodziej the current CHO) looked up the source of the photo rather than assume. At UCLA we would do monthly PPE inspections. We were trained to ask questions first and to treat those inspections as a learning opportunity for the researcher and ourselves. I think this is an important lesson for safety professionals that context is important (as Margaret stated) and we can lose credibility with our researchers by jumping to conclusions.

--Jim Wright


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