From: Tyrell Towle <tyrelltowle**At_Symbol_Here**GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] cloth face masks
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 13:32:32 -0600
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Thank you, Zack. I was always taught that wearing an inappropriate face mask can be more harmful than not wearing one at all. For example, face masks can cause solvents and other volatiles to build up behind the mask when working with such substances, increasing exposure. I do not require the use of face coverings in my laboratories, as there are no hazards that require it. I provide disposable face masks for employees to wear if they want to during certain (dusty) operations. Also, every time I've been required to wear a protective face mask I have had to undergo a physical examination with a medical doctor to determine whether I am healthy enough to use one. Are we not taking liabilities upon ourselves if we require face coverings in a laboratory setting? What if someone has a medical condition affecting the lungs?

Best wishes,

Tyrell R. Towle, Ph.D.
Denver, CO





On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 1:21 PM Zack Mansdorf <mansdorfz**At_Symbol_Here**bellsouth.net> wrote:

This has become an incredible circular discussion that I believe will be never ending.

If you are doing lab work that requires a respirator, use the correct respirator. If you are doing lab work that does not require a respirator (e.g., in a hood), then use common sense. If a face covering is more of a risk than not wearing a face covering (e.g., flammability, corrosivity, vision, etc.) than do not use a face covering and just maintain a 6 foot separation from other persons. If you cannot and the face covering will not work, use a face shield. Before my colleague and friend, Monna, admonishes me--..if you have access to an N-95 or better, use that. It has become pretty clear that the vast majority of cases are from person to person contact and the likelihood of a younger person suffering severe consequences is very small. Consider the overall risk of wearing a face covering versus not wearing a face covering given the lab work. I do not think there is a universal solution for all circumstances nor a universal material that can be used in all circumstances.

That's my non-CDC sanctioned opinion.

Zack

S.Z. Mansdorf, PhD, CIH, CSP, QEP

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From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU> On Behalf Of Patricia Redden
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2020 2:13 PM
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Subject: [DCHAS-L] cloth face masks

CDC is recommending the use of cloth face mask in academic institutions, but the question is what is the best fabric for them. Lab coats in academic labs are supposed to be chemical- and fire-resistant. Does this apply to face masks as well? If so, is there a source for them?

Patricia Redden, Ph.D.

Professor, Chemistry Department

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