From: ILPI Support <info**At_Symbol_Here**ILPI.COM>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] N-95 disinfection and reuse: The NIOSH Guidance has Been Released!
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 11:59:20 -0400
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I'm not opposed to exporting masks in principle.  We sent a bunch of supplies to China early in the crisis and I support that decision because if it could have helped stop this early or slowed the spread, everyone benefits.  We sent supplies to hospitals in Italy for the same purpose.  But shipping masks out of the country to traders and sellers instead of those in direct need is just wrong.  And there is no mechanism in place to stop it.

I have several friends in the medical field, including one who has to do the intubations of these patients.  My friend is literally risking his life, relying on a meager ration of reused masks. When there are millions of masks sitting in a warehouse an hour away and my friend can't get what he needs (which is really a PAPR, but same concept) because we are letting the "free market" run this, then yes, I take exception.  Any nation anywhere has to put its own self-interest first, particularly when the medical system is facing collapse.  If the medical response goes under, we are all screwed.   The export of masks should be immediately halted and assessed - cover the healthcare workers in the US and then, and only then, export them to healthcare workers in other countries.  And it should be done at a controlled and reasonable cost, not this insane $7 for a 50 cent mask that we are seeing.  The absurdity of Michigan bidding against NJ bidding against NY bidding against profiteering middleman abitragers is obvious.  It's morally vacuous.  It's vile, and it needs to stop immediately until we can sort our where the needs are, US or otherwise.  

Again, I have no problem with aid to medical workers in other countries as long as ours have what they need. Which they would if it weren't for opportunists buying and selling them like they're some other commodity like oil.

Rob Toreki

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On Apr 2, 2020, at 10:28 AM, Harrison, Paul <pharriso**At_Symbol_Here**MCMASTER.CA> wrote:

"our Federal Government has failed to step in, declare an emergency, and immediately regulate the trade in masks as well as banning their export: "

Aha!  So now I understand what "America first" really means!  Your selfless consideration for the rest of the world is duly noted.  There is an emergency everywhere, folks.

Rob, I admire all your posts to this list and the outstanding work of all the posters.  But I think you are off on this one.  We just don't have all the answers for this situation.... and we probably haven't even asked all the questions yet.  We need to come together to solve this thing: if we try to silo, the virus will eventually come back to get us.

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Paul  

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From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety [DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU] on behalf of ILPI Support [info**At_Symbol_Here**ILPI.COM]
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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] N-95 disinfection and reuse: The NIOSH Guidance has Been Released!

Apparently, the shortage in this country is because our Federal Government has failed to step in, declare an emergency, and immediately regulate the trade in masks as well as banning their export:


At one point he received an update that 43 million masks were available in New Jersey, in the same time-frame that federal and state leaders were saying in press conferences that they were "scouring the globe" for masks. But the masks in New Jersey, along with many million more, didn't go to any domestic buyer. Instead, according to the broker, they were all purchased by foreign buyers. 

"Most of the masks are leaving the country," he told me.

And

By the end of the day, roughly 280 million masks from warehouses around the U.S. had been purchased by foreign buyers and were earmarked to leave the country, according to the broker - and that was in one day.

Capitalism is the best economic system, hands down.  But it is a terrible social system.

Rob Toreki

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