From: Dan Nowlan <dnowlan**At_Symbol_Here**BERRYMANPRODUCTS.COM>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] SDS and label software
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 16:31:19 +0000
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Monona, you are correct in assuming that we do not sell into the theater, but we certainly have our own industry geniuses to consider.  We primarily sell automotive aftermarket chemicals, so my "secret ingredients" are typically going into fuel additives, engine oil top treats, and a few aerosol lubricants.

 

As I mentioned to another list member offline just a bit ago, these formulas are the result of thorough research, hard-to-come-by lab time, 20-something years of experience/expertise, etc.  These formulas are my babies; that's why I'm so protective of them.  I understand RTK/RTU.  I really do.  It's just frustrating to be held hostage for 100% disclosure when some ingredients (glycerine, oleic acid, PIB) are not GHS-classifiable and in moderation truly don't contribute to any hazards.

 

I said I'd quit ranting after the last e-mail.  I mean it this time.

 

Dan

 

From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU] On Behalf Of Monona Rossol
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2019 9:26 AM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] SDS and label software

 

But don't forget to register it in New Jersey.  We watch for unregistered trade secret ingredients and make a fuss when needed.  

 

And while I'm sure the products you are talking about are not used in art or theater work, I can tell you as a union rep, any "trade secret" or "proprietary" ingredient means we are probably no going to approve of it for use.  Products used in art and theater rarely are used "as directed," so we dang need to know what's in it before the geniuses start to play with it.

 

Monona

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From: Michael <mabuczynski**At_Symbol_Here**HOTMAIL.COM>
To: DCHAS-L <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU>
Sent: Sat, Jul 13, 2019 5:35 am
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] SDS and label software

Dan

You can always designate some ingredient as Trade Secret and it will not be disclosed a on the published SDS. The software needs the complete formulation to calculate the GHS classifications

 

Hope this helps

 

Mike Buczynski


On Jul 12, 2019, at 8:31 PM, Dan Nowlan <dnowlan**At_Symbol_Here**berrymanproducts.com> wrote:

I suspect I'll get little sympathy from this group but as a formulator, I absolutely HATE using Wercs. Not only is it cumbersome to navigate, but I feel like nobody outside the company needs to know ALL our secret weapons if they are not posing health risks not otherwise represented by another ingredient. If I'm using non-haz components (by design!), that should be my business. Glycerine? PG? GMO? Who cares. They shot me down just the other day for not disclosing 50 ppm amylene in a 60% methylene chloride formula. Seriously?!

  

Dan

  

Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

  

 

 

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Date: 7/12/19 6:24 PM (GMT-06:00)

Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] SDS and label software

 

Neal

UL's The WERCS software dies GHS SDS in approximately 70 languages.  It can also do labels.  We used it for many years in my company.  I am retired but they are still using it.

Kitty Strang

 


On Friday, July 12, 2019 NEAL LANGERMAN <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU> wrote:

All 200 SDS's and labels need to be in 50 languages

 

Sent from Neal Langerman's NEXUS 6.
Standard client confidentiality terms apply.

 

On Fri, Jul 12, 2019, 14:00 Peter Zavon <pzavon**At_Symbol_Here**rochester.rr.com> wrote:

50+ languages or 50+ SDS to be translated?


Peter Zavon, CIH
Penfield, NY

PZAVON**At_Symbol_Here**Rochester.rr.com



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From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety
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Sent: Friday, July 12, 2019 3:16 PM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
Subject: [DCHAS-L] SDS and label software

All

I need some suggestions for SDS and label generating software that handles
both the GHS SDS and GHS label and produces results in many languages.  My
immediate language need is for 50+ translations.

Thanks for your ideas

Neal

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