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Your ongoing frustration and fight with getting schools to teach safety is reflected in the workforce. At 40 years in doing industrial safety, and constantly
working to prevent serious injury, illness and death among our employees, it still unfortunately takes a "stick" approach to keep them to follow safety procedures. Fits right in there with seat belts, texting, etc.
Also, forget common sense, as I believe that is developed through experience - good or bad.
Keep up the good work - I agree this should be taught as mandatory in schools.
Harold
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As I pointed out in a previous email, i offered free expert witness to students who wanted to sue their schools for faud since they are granting degrees to students
who don't know the safety rules, and have never even seen their work done safety because the school itself didn't have the proper equipment, ventilation, space and so on. And three students have had tuition refunded.
Those initials after their name should mean something.
Monona
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From: Christina Dillard <cdillard**At_Symbol_Here**MOS.ORG>
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Monona,
I completely agree, NO ONE should graduate without knowing the physical principles related to fireÉ OSHA and so on! It should be a serious course!
I still think we also need to change the culture and make safety and important and integral part of all science education. We need to get the message out to those
that are already in their positions and help them recognize their hazards and take proper precautions.
Best,
Christina
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Safety should not be in the hands of individual teachers, however wonderful some of them may be, to incorporate into lessons bit by bit as their individual experience
and temperament dictate.
Safety is a profession and a discipline all by its damn self. There needs to be a required course in which all of the basic principles and regulatory issues are
taught. No one should graduate without knowing the physical principles related to fire, explosion, basic toxicology, how to read an SDS and a proper label, the applicable OSHA regulations, and so on.
And no 1 credit survey course either. It needs to be tough, organized, detailed, and specific to the hazards and equipment used in the type of chemistry the student
is pursuing.
Monona
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From: Christina Dillard <cdillard**At_Symbol_Here**MOS.ORG>
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Sent: Tue, Jul 2, 2019 11:50 am
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Beacon HS student burned in botched chemistry experiment awarded nearly $60M
I'm not sure I can hang my hat on "hopeful". I was in the thick of trying to make change happen in my more than 13 years with the Laboratory Safety Institute (LSI).
But there needs to be a culture shift in how we teach science. Safety has to be an integral part of all science education. I continue the good fight here at the Museum and most of our educators do a great job of infusing safety into their fun science lessons;
I always tell them, you don't know who is in that audienceÉ a teacher, an administrator, a future teacher or just a student that now has the confidence to speak up about the "cool" safety precautions that they saw and now ask why aren't we doing the same.
We aren't perfect by a long shot, but I'm proud of our staff.
There are so many opportunities to infuse safety into our lessons and to encourage risk assessments at all academic levels. After allÉ Safety is Elementary! There
has to be a way to get this message to a bigger broader audience and shift the culture of "Whoa! That was a close call" to "Wait! What are the precautions?"
I feel we need the help of the cool faces of science like Adam Savage, Steve Spangler, and Steve Nye to make safety a priority, to demonstrate and talk about the importance
of safety. And I think someone here mentioned petitioning YouTube to take down old experiments that only reinforce the "wrong" way to use alcohols in demonstrations.
But I am not hopeful that this lawsuit will make a change. Until I figure out the "magic" to getting this message out I will talk to anyone who will listen about the
pain Alonzo Yanes suffered, the bravery of Priest Rivera to be seen on the news in his bandages warning others about experiments involving the ignition of alcohol vapors and Calais Webber who still hasn't put the whole tragic moment behind her, but fights
the good fight and talks about what happened to her.
Best,
Christina
Christina Dillard | Environmental Health & Safety (EHS) Program Manager
Museum of Science | Facilities Dept. | One Science Park | Boston, MA 02114-1099
P 617-589-4249 | F 617-589-0101 |M 781-789-1178| cdillard**At_Symbol_Here**mos.org |
www.mos.org
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Hopefully, this huge jury award and the publicity generated by it will finally bring a decent amount of nationwide publicity to this ongoing problem, maybe enough
to make school boards sit up and take notice of what might happen if they don't properly train and supervise their science teachers.
Neil Edwards
Laboratory Manager
Adjunct Associate Professor
Department of Chemistry
LIU Post
Brookville, NY
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Oh they got it right. Blaming the board of Education who should have provided the rules. Once in a while the jury sorts through all the facts and figures it out.
Monona Rossol, M.S., M.F.A., Industrial Hygienist President: Arts, Crafts & Theater Safety, Inc. Safety Officer: Local USA829, IATSE 181 Thompson St., #23 New York, NY 10012 212-777-0062actsnyc**At_Symbol_Here**cs.com www.artscraftstheatersafety.org
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