From: Monona Rossol <0000030664c37427-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**LISTS.PRINCETON.EDU>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] What is happening to the GHS SDS?
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 17:45:00 +0000
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I wish there was access to all previous "versions" of SDS sheets especially from Sigma Aldrich.
Rock on, Jeffrey.  They are not improving them, that's for sure.

Even better, let's hope ECHA gets their website together to be more user friendly.   I can't see why there isn't a master data base for basic SDS physical and chemical hazard data on common chemicals.  It would save people all over the world from continually reinventing the damn wheel.

But until recently, it was easier for me to tell my workers to go to Sigma Whatever.  And now that's not such good advice.  

Monona


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From: Jeffrey R. Cogswell <Jeffrey.R.Cogswell**At_Symbol_Here**DARTMOUTH.EDU>
To: DCHAS-L <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU>
Sent: Tue, Jun 11, 2019 10:36 am
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] What is happening to the GHS SDS?

Hello Everybody

I've been reading the threads about GHS SDS and wanted to share my observations.

It's good to know I'm not the only one seeing issues but I think one reason might be because of merger of some companies, especially Sigma and Millipore. It's interesting as I'm seeing more details for PPE to be worn but some chemicals that had warnings in older versions are now "NO GHS Hazards" or don't meet hazard reporting.

I wish there was access to all previous "versions" of SDS sheets especially from Sigma Aldrich.

I'm currently in the process of inventorying the entire campus and each chemical I barcode has an attached SDS in the system. In some cases I feel that an older version is better than the latest one and have opted to not update it. I have also set requests to companies asking for an SDS sheet because I couldn't find it online. After a long wait I'm given a MSDS with the M removed so I needed to find alternatives. 

The complete elimination of NFPA and HMIS I feel are not the best decision for SDS. Our inventory program uses NFPA for building fire codes and for training with our Fire Dept. incase of an accident in the lab. First responders still need these codes and I feel should be provided. These have been in the past but are disappearing from SDS.

All updated SDS from MillipreSigma are eliminating NFPA's and I've only been able to consistently find them at ThermoFisher.

Conflicting hazard information has always been an issue but I have a problem with eliminating safely information altogether, that has been previous available.

-Jeff Cogswell

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From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU> On Behalf Of Yaritza Brinker
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 9:41 AM
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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] What is happening to the GHS SDS?

Monona,

Even though GHS is really good, the reality is that NFPA and HMIS labels are easier for the common worker. If you are standing in a manufacturing plant looking at drums and totes of chemicals, then NFPA and HIMS labels are simply easier to read. Some employers choose to add an NFPA or HMIS label to their containers on arrival.

I'm personally partial to HMIS labels because it includes a letter for the PPE type required. This is a good reminder for people like myself who run different types of tests with a wide range of chemicals and therefore wide range of risks.

Thank you,

Yaritza Brinker
260.827.5402

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From: Monona Rossol <actsnyc**At_Symbol_Here**cs.com>
Re: What is happening to the GHS SDS?

I'm hoping someone can tell my why, after we finally have a good system of describing acute and chronic toxicity with the GHS dose-response Categories, I'm suddenly seeing the misleading dumb old HMIS one number toxicity system showing up even on the new Sigma SDS for Cyrene.

This is really depressing.

Monona Rossol, Arts, Crafts & Theater Safety.

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