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Oh Christina, that is going to do it. Many, many thanks. And thanks to the NFPA 45 committee who put a wee bit of common sense into the standard. I found a lot of university policies that stated only the freight ekevator should be used for transport. This job I'm on is a renovation, so we are stuck with only two passenger elevators.
Monona
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From: Christina Dillard <cdillard**At_Symbol_Here**MOS.ORG>
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Sent: Mon, Apr 15, 2019 9:17 am
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Chemicals on passenger elevators
The 2019 edition reference is A.8.3.3.1 and this edition has an additional sentence tacked to the end of the statement. "Transport of flammable, corrosive, toxic
or highly toxic gases, cryogenic cylinders or dewars, or dry ice and similar oxygen depleting compounds should always be done with no one in the elevator."
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On Behalf Of Harry J. Elston
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 9:00 AM
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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Chemicals on passenger elevators
The "non-requirement" is found in Annex A of NFPA 45, A.8.2.3.1. I suspect that the "suggestion-to-requirement" will be up to the Authority Having Jurisdiction.
Harry
On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 6:57 AM Monona Rossol <0000030664c37427-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**lists.princeton.edu> wrote:
I must have remembered wrong. There certainly should be a lot of rules in place not to have the public sharing the elevator with large
shipments of liquid chemicals such as those planned for transport within a particular public building I'm thinking of. It just seems crazy to me. Monona
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It is a best practice not to move gas cylinders, cryogenic cylinders, and
even dry ice on elevators due to the potential for asphyxiation, fire, or
toxic exposure in the event of an extended elevator failure or
cylinder/container release but I don't know of any code that prevents it.
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Subject: [DCHAS-L] Chemicals on passenger elevators
From: Monona Rossol <actsnyc**At_Symbol_Here**cs.com>
Re: chemicals on passenger elevators new thread
I remember people talking about a standard that addressed the use of
passenger elevators for transport of chemicals to labs. Can someone help
me find that standard and reference?
Thanks muchly
Monona Rossol
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