From: Monona Rossol <0000030664c37427-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**LISTS.PRINCETON.EDU>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] polymer curing question
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 14:38:24 +0000
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I repeat:  DMF has a TLV-TWA of 5 ppm  And add:
               NMP has a WEEL-TWA of 10 ppm and NMP is on a short list proposed for a consumer product ban due to its toxicity.

Those health standards are miles below their LEL concentrations, so I worry about where that oven exhaust is going, especially if they are used in academic labs in someone's project rather than in a planned industrial use.   I have very low confidence in ventilation systems designed for academic labs and especially the locations at which they exhaust.

 My advice:  follow the ducts.

Monona


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From: Tadeusz Wysocki Jr. <tswysocki**At_Symbol_Here**GMAIL.COM>
To: DCHAS-L <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU>
Sent: Tue, Feb 26, 2019 8:44 am
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] polymer curing question

Low flash point solvents are being used in the aircraft industry for  urethane to metal bonding.
Same thing with uncured epoxy prepregs.
We used high flow ovens to keep  below the Low Explosion Level ( LEL) for that solvent.
Safer alternatives to DMF are available,....NR-150 ( Dupont - AVIMID N ) ,.....diamine cured Polyimide solution ( 50% ) was produced in 3 different solvents. NMP, DMF and Ethanol.
Hope this helps,
Ted.


On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 2:03 PM Monona Rossol <0000030664c37427-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**lists.princeton.edu> wrote:
And don't forget a TLV-TWA of 5 ppm.  

Monona Rossol, ACTS NYC


-----Original Message-----
From: Ellen M. Sweet <ems325**At_Symbol_Here**CORNELL.EDU>
To: DCHAS-L <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU>
Sent: Mon, Feb 25, 2019 10:21 am
Subject: [DCHAS-L] polymer curing question

Hi everyone,
I have a question from one of our researchers here at Cornell. Here's the background:
 
"The process involves synthesizing and curing a novel polymer, PDMS based PU, onto plastic "coupons" which will have DFM evaporating off.
The cure process is intended to have the polymer form onto the surface of the coupons in a thin coat and make the surface non-binding."
 
Our question is how to do this safely? DMF has a flash point of 58 =B0C and a vapor density of 2.52.
A known method for this curing process is to place the plastic coupons into a flammable oven that is under vacuum and flushed with nitrogen.
 
Can anyone suggest another method that doesn't involve the use of an oven like this? The group would have to purchase one to the tune of $50,000!
 
Thanks, Ellen
 
 
Ellen Sweet
Laboratory Ventilation Specialist
Department of Environmental Health and Safety, Cornell University
American Chemical Society, Division of Chemical Health and Safety
315-730-8896
 
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