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Subject: [DCHAS-L] Academic freedom?
Date: Thursday, December 27, 2018 at 11:41:12 AM
Author: Ralph Stuart <000005bc294e9212-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**LISTS.PRINCETON.EDU> 		Next by Date:
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Academic freedom?
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2018 17:28:34 +0000
Author: Dr Bob

From: Alan Hall <oldeddoc**At_Symbol_Here**GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Academic freedom?
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2018 11:02:37 -0600
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Ralph et al,

Despite the journalism ( sometimes a plague on all their houses), what's the evidence that wha the was dispensing was acutally liquid nitrogen? I might have expected to see a bit more than the photo shows if it were truly the case. Or that he was the one actually doing so? Clearly, if it was and he was, there are many safety concerns.

Alan
Alan H. Hall, M.D.
Medical Toxicologist


On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 10:42 AM Ralph Stuart <000005bc294e9212-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**lists.princeton.edu> wrote:
This is an interesting case study for those of us overseeing academic laboratories.

https://www.independentmail.com/story/news/2018/12/21/clemson-university-lab-shuts-down-over-safety-concerns/2268019002/

The article above includes an interesting take on academic freedom. Wikipedia describes academic freedom as
"Academic freedom is the conviction that the freedom of inquiry by faculty members is essential to the mission of the academy as well as the principles of academia, and that scholars should have freedom to teach or communicate ideas or facts (including those that are inconvenient to external political groups or to authorities) without being targeted for repression, job loss, or imprisonment."

The story doesn't indicate that any of those consequences are likely as a result of the University's action. The professor's case that he operates safely would probably be stronger if he wasn't pictured dispensing liquid nitrogen barehanded as part of the story...

- Ralph

Ralph Stuart, CIH, CCHO
rstuartcih**At_Symbol_Here**me.com

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