From: "Meschewski, Brian D" <bmesche2**At_Symbol_Here**ILLINOIS.EDU>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Required Training?
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 16:34:11 +0000
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Hi,

 

Here is my two cents. I would consider the lab coordinator to fall under the OSHA Lab Standard, due to the type of work and the scale of the work they are doing.

 

*1.  Is there any OSHA-required training for chemistry lab coordinators who work with chemicals in an academic setting, preparing labs, helping supervise labs, and preparing chemical waste for disposal companies?

 

What does your Chemical Hygiene Plan say? If an employee is working with chemicals on the laboratory scale (preparing solutions for a lab class for example), how is the employer ensuring their CHP includes provisions for the necessary employee information and training dictated by the OSHA Lab Standard? Part of this training includes knowledge of the hazards of the chemicals in their work area, PPE requirements, and emergency procedures. OSHA does not point to a specific training, but the employer is responsible for providing training. The waste question might require more info, are they the ones doing the shipping? RCRA and DOT come into play for sure.

 

*2.  If so, what is required?

 

I agree that this depends on what they are working with, and what they are doing with it.

 

*3.  Are faculty, based on their degrees in Chemistry, exempted from any such requirements?

 

Simply put, no.

 

Adding in my opinion, based on my relatively young career, I can say (anecdotally) that the type of degree, certifications, years of experience, or title does not necessarily mean that individual knows how to work safely. It can be a good indicator that they are knowledgeable about safe work practices, but there is no guarantee. All it takes is someone to underestimate risk once. And with as fast as research changes, new materials can be introduced regularly, or existing materials can be used in a new way.

 

Taking it a step further on the research side, the PI will likely have a whole team of young researchers (grad students, post docs, technicians, undergrads, etc) they are responsible for, engaged in a wide variety of research with materials the PI may not have direct experience working with themselves. At worst, training will be a minor inconvenience, and will be a reminder that there are regulations out there that they need to comply with. An experienced researcher may not even think about the hazards or associated risk anymore (and how to manage it), but their new students will not have that knowledge or experience. This reminder can help them help their staff.

 

Like I said, my two cents, but hopefully this helps.

 

Brian Meschewski

Research Safety Professional

Division of Research Safety

University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

(217)333-2423

bmesche2**At_Symbol_Here**illinois.edu

 

From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU> On Behalf Of Murphy, Dr. Ruth Ann
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 5:28 PM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
Subject: [DCHAS-L] Required Training?

 

Hello,

 

*1.  Is there any OSHA-required training for chemistry lab coordinators who work with chemicals in an academic setting, preparing labs, helping supervise labs, and preparing chemical waste for disposal companies? 

*2.  If so, what is required?   

*3.  Are faculty, based on their degrees in Chemistry, exempted from any such requirements?

 

Thank you!

 

Ruth Ann

 

Ruth Ann Murphy, Ph.D.

Professor of Chemistry

Chairperson, Department of Chemistry, Environmental Science and Geology

Co-Chairperson, Health Professions Advisory Committee

Amy LeVesconte Professorship of Chemistry

JAMP Faculty Director

University of Mary Hardin-Baylor

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Belton, TX  76513-2599

Phone 254.295.4542

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