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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Lab Coat Use
Date: Tuesday, October 9, 2018 at 4:32:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Lab Coat Use
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 19:23:16 -0500
Author: Meg Osterby

From: Meg Osterby <megosterby**At_Symbol_Here**GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Stools in Chemistry Laboratories
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 19:00:03 -0500
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When I was at Western Technical College, they remodelled the one multi-use lab when putting a sprinkler system in. I got new stools at that time. I was sent an email asking did I want cloth or vinyl seats. I said neither, and the VP of instruction backed me up. So I was asked to send them product description of the stools I wanted. They told me that some rule or other in Wisconsin publically run stools mandated that there be stools. I never figured out if that was true or not
I had them order Rhino stools, both organic and acid base resistant. I'm with a back only 2 inches tall. They can slip right under the bench, even at full height, and I enforced them being under the benches and out of aisles or any path through the lab. The ones they replaced had had full backs, cloth covered seats peppered with acid burn holed and also with dissolved areas from our bio- organic labs.
The Rhino stools were perfect. The students could sit during the pre-lab and during any lab that it was safe to do so, and the lab activity allowed. (Think Kool aid colorimetry,)
My $0.02 worth
Meg Osterby

Meg Osterby

On Tue, Oct 9, 2018, 11:22 AM Laurie Yoder <laurie.yoder**At_Symbol_Here**emu.edu> wrote:
Your lab setup sounds like our general chem lab. The benches are lower than typical standing counter height so some activities are not ideally done while standing, like writing in their notebooks or making observations at the desktop level. But they also stand when needed for better leverage, depending on what they're working on. From a classroom management perspective I like that they can sit during the pre-lab lecture, and the pod design helps with collaborative work. The hazards of our work are low enough that I haven't been concerned that sitting compromises their safety (maybe I should be?). I'm interested in hearing others' experiences here too.
Laurie

On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 11:22 AM Frankie Wood-Black <fwoodblack90**At_Symbol_Here**gmail.com> wrote:
OK folks - it is time to ask the question as we just got new laboratories for one of our campus locations.. In our chemistry labs at two of our campuses we have "laboratory pods" A bench with a sink in the middle and places for four individuals with under the pod stools. (Note in the new laboratory - the stools weren't the best choice and are now a tripping hazard, so that is a separate issue.)

But, what we are seeing more and more is that if the stools are available the students want to sit to do the experiments. Understanding of course that there are some that need this type of accommodation, but for most - sitting while doing the experiment is not necessary or desired.

So, I am asking the question - primarily to defend our stance, what is your opinion about stools in a general chemistry laboratory - we are talking introductory chemistry and general chemistry.



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