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From: Monona Rossol <0000030664c37427-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**LISTS.PRINCETON.EDU>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Restaurant use of liquid nitrogen for ice cream?
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 08:58:57 -0400
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Some asthmatics have attacks due to inhalation of things they are allergic to. But others have their attacks triggered by cold, dry air. Liquid nitrogen on food just doesn't make sense.
Monona Rossol, M.S., M.F.A., Industrial Hygienist
President: Arts, Crafts & Theater Safety, Inc.
Safety Officer: Local USA829, IATSE
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New York, NY 10012 212-777-0062
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Sent: Sat, Sep 1, 2018 5:42 am
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Restaurant use of liquid nitrogen for ice cream?
This was on the news here yesterday - a warning
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/mother-warns-of-liquid-nitrogen-snack-after-son-suffers-asthma-attack/video/74f01fe60683d32f317671801233fe15
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Well, out here in California we have a number of ice cream parlors that freeze the ice cream in front of you using LN2. I can't send links here but you can do a quick Google on the following:
Nite Creamery- in my town but haven't been there
Creamistry- is a chain in a number of Ca cities
Vivian
Vivian Longacre
Laboratory & Research Safety, RSO, BSO
Environmental Health & Safety
Cal Poly
San Luis Obispo, California
Direct 805.756.6628
I'm sure some special effects idiot has used liquid nitrogen, but we routinely use CO2 and Nitrogen gases in cylinders (usually 100# cylinders) in theater, so there may be some relevance.
We have had one death and two people rendered unconscious from CO2 this year. The problems usually are putting the gas cylinders in small rooms or basement areas where there is not enough ventilation to insure that a release can be dispersed. So I would
want to know where the liquid nitrogen is stored and applied and, figuring worst case, what could happen if there were a big spill or release in those locations.
Monona Rossol, M.S., M.F.A., Industrial Hygienist
President: Arts, Crafts & Theater Safety, Inc.
Safety Officer: Local USA829, IATSE
181 Thompson St., #23
New York, NY 10012 212-777-0062
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Sent: Fri, Aug 31, 2018 6:07 am
Subject: [DCHAS-L] Restaurant use of liquid nitrogen for ice cream?
Hi all,
A colleague, Kerri Jansen, is working on a video about using liquid nitrogen to make ice cream in a restaurant-type setting. Do any of you have experience with safety standards for this, or can you point us to a possible source? We want to make sure we
do this well.
Some of the questions Kerri is looking to answer are:
Would safety guidelines for liquid nitrogen use in a restaurant differ from the standards set for lab use? If so, what differences would be taken into consideration?
What is the proper way to handle liquid nitrogen in a restaurant setting, from a safety standpoint? (Said differently, what can consumers look for to know the liquid nitrogen used to prepare their food is being handled safely?)
Thank you!
Jyllian
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