Hi Dave:
I hope you have access to the JCHAS. Please see following links for the HF handling and exposure management. Good luck.
Tilak
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1871553207000461
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1871553211000478
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1871553207000217
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I am puzzled. My understanding is that HF, and other ionizable/ionized forms of fluoride, if exposed to the skin should be treated with calcium gluconate. ("Calgonate" is a
preparation of calcium gluconate.) However, these treatments would neither be effective nor necessary if the fluorine-containing compound is covalently-bound F. Thus, I don't know what a "fluorinated acid spill" might be or whether calcium carbonate (which
is not calcium gluconate/"Calgonate") would be effective. (An example of a fluorinated acid might be TFA, trifluoroacetic acid; these F atoms are not ionizable.)
When once researching medical events about fluoride exposures I came across anecdotes of medical ER folks using calcium gluconate on an exposure that was clearly a covalently-bonded
fluorine compound. (I can't find this now.) The treatment was ineffective, as expected. But, the patient was not suffering from "fluoride exposure", either.)
I would welcome other insights that clarify my understanding.
Dave
David C. Finster
Professor, Department of Chemistry
Wittenberg University
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Calgonate also has a lot of info. on HF safety and has spill kits and gels available. At my company we keep calcium carbonate on hand for any fluorinated acid spills, but we do not handle HF.
Sara Johnson, Ph.D.
Inorganic Chemist
The Shepherd Chemical Company
Norwood, OH 45212
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Cell: (810)730-8963
Office: (513) 731-1110
On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 11:21 AM, Paul Weller <wellerp**At_Symbol_Here**elon.edu> wrote:
Honeywell has a neutralization guide
https://www.honeywell-hfacid.com/literature/
Paul Weller
Paul Weller
Senior Science Laboratory Manager-Chemistry
Elon University2625 Campus Box
Elon, NC 27244
Phone 336.278.6225
Location MCMI 302
From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU> On Behalf Of Layman, Rachel
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Subject: [DCHAS-L] HF working surface decontamination solution - recommended concentration or alternate?
Hello,
Does anyone know what percent solution of calcium hydroxide would be appropriate for decontamination of working surfaces where HF has been used, or small spill of HF known?
Or is there a better solution anyone can recommend?
Thanks,
Rachel
Rachel M. Layman, MS, CHMM, CHO
University Chemical Hygiene Officer
Environmental Health and Safety
Virginia Tech
(540) 231-3427
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