DCHAS-L Archives, May 15 2018 - Re: [DCHAS-L] mouse bait anyone?

First the good and bad news. All the many traps with multiple baits were empty this morning with the exception of one of the electronic traps baited with sunflower seeds and the beloved yellow Just-One-Bite. The casualty is a juvenile which is probably one of our main mouse's off-spring. I thought I got them all, but this one probably was under the radar.

But our nemesis mouse went to the regular feeding station, finished the D-Con cube in the bait station and carefully picked the bits of yellow Just-One-Bite out of the mixture of shavings with the green Tom Cat containing the bromethalin. My only strategy now is to continue mixing these two and hope she accidentally gets enough of the Tom Cat for the nerve poison to work.

Watch out, all. She's and her kind are coming.

As for your daughter's ultrasonic noise-maker: ridiculous. In NYC? There is a day and night din of all sound and radio frequencies. And where do the rats and mice REALLY like best to live? Why the subway tunnels, of course. Have you ever heard the interaction between metal wheels and train track when our old trains break for a station? eh? Speak up.

Thank you all for the grand suggestions. I'll keep trying.

Monona Rossol, M.S., M.F.A., Industrial Hygienist

President: Arts, Crafts & Theater Safety, Inc.

Safety Officer: Local USA829, IATSE

181 Thompson St., #23

New York, NY 10012 212-777-0062

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From: Kim Jeskie <jeskiekb**At_Symbol_Here**COMCAST.NET>
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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] mouse bait anyone?

Oh Gosh! I'm laughing so hard, but also horrified, because my daughter lives in one of these NYC buildings. I'll never be able to tell her this story of them traveling along the molding or she'll never open a window again. She tried peppermint for a while, but doesn't know if it worked, because it drove her out (used too much and her eyes and nose started burning, LOL). She switched to the ultrasonic repellants. Seems to be working, but that's also on top of the normal treatments the landlord has to put out. But it looks like that isn't working for you either. Maybe you have a deaf mouse too. Wonder if you can use that to your advantage!

On May 14, 2018, at 4:30 PM, Reinhardt, Peter <peter.reinhardt**At_Symbol_Here**YALE.EDU> wrote:

Since she is watching you, have you thought about doing the rainbow demonstration for her? =E2=80" Pete Reinhardt

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For $5, it's worth adding to the arsenal. But cheeses and peanut butter both turn this mouse away.

I have a massive arsenal of the standard mouse pesticides.. Both types of anticoagulants and the bromethalin ones. The mouse won't touch the Tom Cat bars that contain the Bromethalin. I'm well into my second economy pack of 21 D-Con cubes. And I'm finishing a 5 pound package of Just-One-Bite. I can't afford to keep feeding this bastard.

If I'm practicing singing really late, say after 10 pm, this mouse sometimes comes and sits where I have her poisoned food on the window seat and she watches me. The window seat is a yard above the floor and about 4 feet from where I sit on the floor on a pillow with my keyboard.. =46rom these positions, she and I are essentially at the same level and eye-to-eye. Creepy animal this one.

Monona Rossol, M.S., M.F.A., Industrial Hygienist

President: Arts, Crafts & Theater Safety, Inc.

Safety Officer: Local USA829, IATSE

181 Thompson St., #23

New York, NY 10012     212-777-0062

actsnyc**At_Symbol_Here**cs.com   www.artscraftstheatersafety.org

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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] mouse bait anyone?

No experience with it, but I saw this the other day while I was at Home Depot: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Tomcat-Mouse-Attractant-Gel-BL33901/205566250

Reviews are mixed, but contain lots of advice about different kinds of cheeses- Also read the reviews from other sites.

Hey, it even has an SDS (which says it is not hazardous=E2=80=A6which means it does not need an SDS-but they filled out all the info anyway just because).

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On May 13, 2018, at 1:20 PM, DCHAS Membership Chair <membership**At_Symbol_Here**DCHAS.ORG> wrote:

From: Monona Rossol <actsnyc**At_Symbol_Here**cs.com>
Re; mouse bait anyone?

please post new cry for help

I love my apartment. I've lived here since 1969. Every fall, for almost 50 years, a few mice come in, we poison and trap them, and in less than a week we are back to normal. I moved to NYC from living in my farm house/studio in Wisconsin where the procedure was, and still is, the same. The mice come in when its fall, you do them all in, and settle down for the winter.

Well, that's not what happened last year. We killed a few, but not one particular mouse.

We are in a six-floor walk-up and this is one of the mice that run on the moldings on the outside of NYC buildings and come in over the sills of open windows (I see them come in each year). The mouse is still here this spring because it lives on D-Con (eats a ~1/4 cube per day), Just-One-Bite (eats about a teaspoon full per night off those big yellow poison bars), the roots of my plants, and a couple of bird seeds that I miss when I clean up the feeder every night. Our apartment is festooned with bait traps, snap traps, electronic traps, and sticky traps.

I even tried a few home made concoctions. But the mouse associates peanut butter and cheese with snap traps, and won't go near any concoctions. She prefers the commercial poisons. Sometimes she eats so much poison that her little poopies are bright D-Con green.

I KNOW it's a SHE because, in these miserable 8 months, she has TWICE raised a litter to the point that they can leave where ever she is nesting. The wee mice tear up the whole house for a day and all die from the poisons or in the traps. If one of her offspring inherits both the poison immunity and her smarts, we are going to be in BIG trouble.

The building's regular licensed exterminator only offers snap traps and D-Con. And I can't do integrated pest management in a 150 year old tenement whose walls and floors leak like sieves. Without open windows we'd have no fresh air. Some of my plants have lived with us 30 years and I'm not getting rid of them (although I forgot to move one of the plants into the bathtub last night and she ate so much of the roots it will probably die).. And I clean up the bird seed from the feeder every night but I'm not giving up birds.

I'm just not giving up 50-year, happy, fulfilling life style for one damn mouse. Instead: I NEED SOMETHING THAT WORKS.   I am willing to entertain just about any ideas.

Monona Rossol, M.S., M.F.A., Industrial Hygienist
President: Arts, Crafts & Theater Safety, Inc.
Safety Officer: Local USA829, IATSE
181 Thompson St., #23
New York, NY 10012     212-777-0062
actsnyc**At_Symbol_Here**cs.com   www.artscraftstheatersafety.org

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