From: Jim Tarr <jtarr**At_Symbol_Here**STONELIONS.COM>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] mouse bait anyone?
Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 16:19:40 -0700
Reply-To: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU>
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To all:

Me no like kill things.

Jim Tarr


> On May 14, 2018 at 10:00 AM Mary Beth Mulcahy wrote:
>
>
> Reading this was so worth the pain from snorting coffee out of my
> nose...Dan, the insight you provided on mice is fascinating.
>
> Colorado mice in my house completely ignore the blue gel. Peanut butter
> gets them every time.
>
> mb
>
> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 10:22 AM, Dan Blunk wrote:
>
> > Monona,
> >
> > I suspect you would now miss the company of your four-legged friend,
> > should you succeed in terminating it‰??s existence.
> >
> > Providing you are prepared for the loss, I have a few suggestions.
> >
> > Based on the info provided, I suspect the mouse has learned to avoid
> > recognized traps. It likely won‰??t matter what bait is used, the bait won‰??t
> > overcome the trap avoidance.
> >
> > Nice don‰??t free-drink water. They obtain water from the food they eat.
> > Based on what it prefers to eat, I suspect the mouse is craving water.
> >
> > I‰??d be willing to bet a fresh apple slice would provide a scent and the
> > moisture to be an effective attractant. But not for a trap the mouse knows
> > to avoid.
> >
> > I recommend that you borrow or obtain a small live trap. The trap needs to
> > be small to ensure the mouse can‰??t escape the trap. Because they can
> > compress their collar bones, mice can pass through an opening the size of a
> > dime.
> >
> > While you‰??re obtaining the trap, try and unfettered apple slice to see if
> > the mouse takes it.
> >
> > Once you have a successful bait identified and a trap unfamiliar to the
> > mouse, you need to train the mouse to the trap. If it becomes scared of the
> > trap without being caught, you‰??re back to square one.
> >
> > Put the successful bait near the new trap, but not in it. Next, fix the
> > trap in a set position, but rigged so it doesn‰??t trip. Put the successful
> > bait inside until the mouse is accustomed to taking bait from the trap.
> > Then set and bait the trap to catch the mouse.
> >
> > If it‰??s a live trap, I suggest you offer your survivor friend a second
> > chance outdoors. But, if you want to put it down, you can do so with dry
> > ice and a plastic bag.
> >
> > Good luck!
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > Dan Blunk
> > Formerly
> > Env Progs
> > UCSC
> >
> > On May 14, 2018, at 7:13 AM, Monona Rossol <0000030664c37427-dmarc-
> > request**At_Symbol_Here**LISTS.PRINCETON.EDU> wrote:
> >
> > Veh es mir. Still nothing except the information that jam won't do it.
> > But tomorrow night will be the BIG test. I've made a list of all the ideas
> > for attracting the mice to the many traps and every idea will be
> > represented. Some traps will have multiple types of attractants. We
> > better not have to get up in the night or we are likely to lose toes.
> >
> > Monona Rossol, M.S., M.F.A., Industrial Hygienist
> > President: Arts, Crafts & Theater Safety, Inc.
> > Safety Officer: Local USA829, IATSE
> > 181 Thompson St., #23
> > <https://maps.google.com/?q=181+Thompson+St.,+%2323+%0D%0A%0D%0A+New+York,+NY+10012&entry=gmail&source=g>
> > New York, NY 10012
> > <https://maps.google.com/?q=181+Thompson+St.,+%2323+%0D%0A%0D%0A+New+York,+NY+10012&entry=gmail&source=g>
> > 212-777-0062
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark Ellison
> > To: DCHAS-L
> > Sent: Mon, May 14, 2018 9:31 am
> > Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] mouse bait anyone?
> >
> > I certainly hope, for the sake of New York, (indeed, the rest of the
> > world!) that this super mouse does not pass on her insane biochemistry to
> > her progeny. Oy ve!
> >
> > Mark Ellison
> >
> > *From:* ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety [
> > mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU ] *On Behalf Of *Monona
> > Rossol
> > *Sent:* Sunday, May 13, 2018 6:36 PM
> > *To:* DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
> > *Subject:* Re: [DCHAS-L] mouse bait anyone?
> >
> > Thanks, but I own two types of those bucket spinners and this mouse isn't
> > at all interested. I could try the jam. Haven't use that. And using
> > peanut butter is a guarantee that the mouse won't go near the thing.
> >
> >
> > Monona Rossol, M.S., M.F.A., Industrial Hygienist
> > President: Arts, Crafts & Theater Safety, Inc.
> > Safety Officer: Local USA829, IATSE
> > 181 Thompson St., #23
> > <https://maps.google.com/?q=181+Thompson+St.,+%2323+%0D%0A%0D%0A+%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A+%0D%0A%0D%0A+New+York,+NY+10012&entry=gmail&source=g>
> > New York, NY 10012
> > <https://maps.google.com/?q=181+Thompson+St.,+%2323+%0D%0A%0D%0A+%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A+%0D%0A%0D%0A+New+York,+NY+10012&entry=gmail&source=g>
> > 212-777-0062
> > actsnyc**At_Symbol_Here**cs.com www.artscraftstheatersafety.org
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeffrey Lewin
> > To: DCHAS-L
> > Sent: Sun, May 13, 2018 7:17 pm
> > Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] mouse bait anyone?
> > Google bucket mouse traps. Peanut butter and oatmeal are my staple for
> > regular traps. For the bucket trap you could try jam or honey on the bucket
> > roller.
> >
> > Good luck Jeff
> > On Sun, May 13, 2018, 3:25 PM ILPI Support wrote:
> >
> > No experience with it, but I saw this the other day while I was at Home
> > Depot: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Tomcat-Mouse-Attractant-
> > Gel-BL33901/205566250
> >
> > Reviews are mixed, but contain lots of advice about different kinds of
> > cheeses‰?| Also read the reviews from other sites.
> >
> > Hey, it even has an SDS (which says it is not hazardous‰?|which means it
> > does not need an SDS‰?|but they filled out all the info anyway just because).
> >
> > Rob Toreki
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> >
> >
> >
> > On May 13, 2018, at 1:20 PM, DCHAS Membership Chair
> > wrote:
> >
> > From: Monona Rossol
> > Re; mouse bait anyone?
> >
> > please post new cry for help
> >
> > I love my apartment. I've lived here since 1969. Every fall, for almost
> > 50 years, a few mice come in, we poison and trap them, and in less than a
> > week we are back to normal. I moved to NYC from living in my farm
> > house/studio in Wisconsin where the procedure was, and still is, the same.
> > The mice come in when its fall, you do them all in, and settle down for the
> > winter.
> >
> > Well, that‰??s not what happened last year. We killed a few, but not one
> > particular mouse.
> >
> > We are in a six-floor walk-up and this is one of the mice that run on the
> > moldings on the outside of NYC buildings and come in over the sills of open
> > windows (I see them come in each year). The mouse is still here this
> > spring because it lives on D-Con (eats a ~1/4 cube per day), Just-One-Bite
> > (eats about a teaspoon full per night off those big yellow poison bars),
> > the roots of my plants, and a couple of bird seeds that I miss when I clean
> > up the feeder every night. Our apartment is festooned with bait traps, snap
> > traps, electronic traps, and sticky traps.
> >
> > I even tried a few home made concoctions. But the mouse associates peanut
> > butter and cheese with snap traps, and won't go near any concoctions. She
> > prefers the commercial poisons. Sometimes she eats so much poison that her
> > little poopies are bright D-Con green.
> >
> > I KNOW it's a SHE because, in these miserable 8 months, she has TWICE
> > raised a litter to the point that they can leave where ever she is
> > nesting. The wee mice tear up the whole house for a day and all die from
> > the poisons or in the traps. If one of her offspring inherits both the
> > poison immunity and her smarts, we are going to be in BIG trouble.
> >
> > The building‰??s regular licensed exterminator only offers snap traps and
> > D-Con. And I can't do integrated pest management in a 150 year old
> > tenement whose walls and floors leak like sieves. Without open windows we'd
> > have no fresh air. Some of my plants have lived with us 30 years and I'm
> > not getting rid of them (although I forgot to move one of the plants into
> > the bathtub last night and she ate so much of the roots it will probably
> > die). And I clean up the bird seed from the feeder every night but I'm not
> > giving up birds.
> >
> > I‰??m just not giving up 50-year, happy, fulfilling life style for one damn
> > mouse. Instead: I NEED SOMETHING THAT WORKS. I am willing to entertain
> > just about any ideas.
> >
> >
> > Monona Rossol, M.S., M.F.A., Industrial Hygienist
> > President: Arts, Crafts & Theater Safety, Inc.
> > Safety Officer: Local USA829, IATSE
> > 181 Thompson St., #23
> > <https://maps.google.com/?q=181+Thompson+St.,+%2323+New+York,+NY+10012&entry=gmail&source=g>
> > New York, NY 10012
> > <https://maps.google.com/?q=181+Thompson+St.,+%2323+New+York,+NY+10012&entry=gmail&source=g>
> > 212-777-0062
> > actsnyc**At_Symbol_Here**cs.com www.artscraftstheatersafety.org
> >
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