Then why does an institution like MIT set up a service that they clearly over-sell with chemically incorrect statements? And what good are their evaluations if they operate on the assumption in their mission statement? That means you have to check on the toxicity of everything they recommend anyway. A waste of time it seems to me.
Just asking. There must be someone out there that knows.
Monona Rossol, M.S., M.F.A., Industrial Hygienist
President: Arts, Crafts & Theater Safety, Inc.
Safety Officer: Local USA829, IATSE
181 Thompson St., #23
New York, NY 10012 212-777-0062
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Agreed - I always point this out.
S-
On 12/12/2017 7:55 PM, Monona Rossol
wrote:
OK,
look at their own statement of purpose:
The Green Chemical Alternatives
Purchasing Wizard is intended as a tool to reduce the
hazardous waste profile in research labs, an effort that
ultimately saves MIT, and its researchers, money while
reducing hazard potentials and the burden to our
environment.
First, the premise is wrong. "reducing the hazardous waste
profile" does not ultimately "reduce hazard potentials." The
two objectives are unrelated. Please
look HARD at the chemicals these sites recommend. I think
you will find they are indeed often not the safer chemicals
for the user.
What something breaks down
into in the environment long after it has been discarded is
unrelated to the toxicity of the chemical BEFORE it breaks
down in the environment.
Evaluate the toxicity of the
chemical to the user. Evaluate the chemical's effect on the
environment. But do these two things independent of each
other.
Monona Rossol, M.S., M.F.A., Industrial Hygienist
President: Arts, Crafts & Theater Safety, Inc.
Safety Officer: Local USA829, IATSE
181 Thompson St., #23
New York, NY 10012 212-777-0062
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From: Samuella Beth Sigmann
<sigmannsb**At_Symbol_Here**APPSTATE.EDU>
To: DCHAS-L
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Sent: Tue, Dec 12, 2017 2:13 pm
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Greener Trade Chemical Screening
Tools?
MIT has a Green Chemistry
Purchasing Wizard. No specific course, but I have used
it for teaching.
S-
https://ehs.mit.edu/site/environmental-stewardship/green-chemistry
On 12/12/2017 12:43
PM, Stuart, Ralph wrote:
I had an interesting conversation this morning with the chair of our product design department about assessing greener alternatives to the trade chemicals (paints, glues, etc.) they use in their metal and woods shops. She is interesting in identifying sources of information that she can use with students and staff to identify greener alternatives (safer and less toxic) to the chemicals they traditionally use in those areas. Based on a short course she recently attended on the topic, she also feels that there is the potential for developing a course for design students on this topic.
I wonder if anyone on the list has identified a specific information source that supports this opportunity or has developed a course on this topic for either undergrad or graduate level non-chemistry students?
Thanks for any information on this.
- Ralph
Ralph Stuart, CIH, CCHO
Environmental Safety Manager
Keene State College
603 358-2859
ralph.stuart**At_Symbol_Here**keene.edu
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