From: Monona Rossol <0000030664c37427-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**LISTS.PRINCETON.EDU>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] 'Large fireball' injures students in chemistry experiment gone wrong
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2017 09:12:49 -0500
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My that seems so clear.  This is the standard that should be cited immediately every time one of these things happens.  10 feet or a barrier, take your pick.  And qualified people etc.  No pawn ticket for the ring?  The engagement is off.



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From: Samuella B. Sigmann <sigmannsb**At_Symbol_Here**APPSTATE.EDU>
To: DCHAS-L <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU>
Sent: Sun, Nov 26, 2017 5:47 pm
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] 'Large fireball' injures students in chemistry experiment gone wrong

NFPA 45 2015 Chapter 12 - Free to read online, but not free to print or download.
http://www.nfpa.org/codes-and-standards/all-codes-and-standards/list-of-codes-and-standards/detail?code=45
Sammye

On 11/26/2017 2:44 PM, Rogers, Janet wrote:
Would you please provide the citation for the NFPA guidlines for classroom chemical demonstrations?

Janet Rogers, Ph.D.
Professor & Chair
Chemistry Department
Edinboro University
230 Scotland Road
Edinboro, PA  16444


phone: 814.732.1539
e-mail: rogers**At_Symbol_Here**edinboro.edu
Janet
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From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety [DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU] on behalf of Stuart, Ralph [Ralph.Stuart**At_Symbol_Here**KEENE.EDU]
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 12:04 PM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] 'Large fireball' injures students in chemistry experiment gone wrong

What is needed is common sense. Is this something that can be learned?
The question is where the common sense needs to be located. The NFPA has already laid out very explicit expectations for classroom chemical demonstrations that enable a prudent person to work safely. However, it's not clear to me that either the teachers (or other demonstrators in public spaces, such as museums, daycares or scout gatherings) are aware of this standard. In my opinion, school administrators need to be more curious about why not...

- Ralph

Ralph Stuart, CIH, CCHO
Environmental Safety Manager
Keene State College
603 358-2859

ralph.stuart**At_Symbol_Here**keene.edu

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