OMG. I'm glad I work for my own nonprofit and for the unions. You put the eyes of my people at risk and I'm taking it to a lab. You can try to sue me later and explain in the written compliant against me why people in the lab don't have the right to know what they might put in their damaged eyes in an emergency. The "authorities" can't defend that with some corporate CYA crud.

Monona Rossol, M.S., M.F.A., Industrial Hygienist

President: Arts, Crafts & Theater Safety, Inc.

Safety Officer: Local USA829, IATSE

181 Thompson St., #23

New York, NY 10012 212-777-0062

actsnyc**At_Symbol_Here**cs.com www.artscraftstheatersafety.org

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From: Kaufmann, Heather <kaufmann.h**At_Symbol_Here**GMERCYU.EDU>
To: DCHAS-L <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU>

Sent: Mon, Apr 10, 2017 1:33 pm
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] ? Re Eyewash Water

I would love to do that but don't have the authority.

If the water sits, a sediment comes out of solution (usually in a day or two). They have performed water testing at several sites in the building but not specifically of this water. We have about 10 samples at this point. They did test the water at a sink in the laboratory but I think the eyewash/safety shower combo is plumbed differently because of needing the tepid water. At any rate, I was not allowed to be part of that process either......

On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 1:24 PM, Monona Rossol <0000030664c37427-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**lists.princeton.edu> wrote:

wait a full day and run the yellow water for metals and organics. If something is coming off that fast, you need to find out what it is.

Monona Rossol, M.S., M.F.A., Industrial Hygienist

President: Arts, Crafts & Theater Safety, Inc.

Safety Officer: Local USA829, IATSE

181 Thompson St., #23

New York, NY 10012 212-777-0062

actsnyc**At_Symbol_Here**cs.com www.artscraftstheatersafety.org

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From: Kaufmann, Heather <kaufmann.h**At_Symbol_Here**GMERCYU.EDU>
To: DCHAS-L <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU>
Sent: Mon, Apr 10, 2017 12:57 pm
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] ? Re Eyewash Water

Hi everyone,

I am having eyewash issues as well and am seeking advice.

We have an eyewash that started giving discolored water upon activation about 1 month ago. Our Plant services has slowly been looking at the problem but I think I am rapidly hitting a wall and the problem still exists. I feel like the matter is complicated as I am Lab Manager (where I get plenty of support) and Environmental Safety manager (where I get no support) and this issues affects both facets of my job.

What we observe is the the water runs orange for the first 2-5 seconds and then clears up. If we flush it at 8am, the color appears (very lightly but discernible) by 3pm. Therefore, we have been flushing the eyewash daily as labs are scheduled in that room on a daily basis. I have basically been told at this point that they think the discoloration will clear itself up over time. Although the discoloration was worse and longer today after Plant completing an overnight flush Friday to Saturday. Furthermore, this is an eyewash/safety shower combo so there is often a very slight orange tint to that water as well.

My question is whether we should insist on taking the eyewash out of use until they really resolve the problem because even with daily flushing the discoloration occurs somewhat rapidly. There is another eyewash in the lab but it is one of those faucet mounts that you have to adjust the water and remove the caps before you can use it (I had no input on the choice of this eyewash when the room was renovated.) I want to make sure I am advising my Chair properly on the matter.

Also, I asked my manager for the EHS side of my job permission to purchase a copy of ANSI Z358.1 and my request was not granted. I would really like to see the text for myself so I am thinking I need to purchase it on my own at this point. Will the actual text of the standard enlighten me more than just the free summaries that I have poured over?

Help! I just want to keep the lab safe for the students.

Thanks,

Heather

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Wilhelm, Monique <mwilhelm**At_Symbol_Here**umflint.edu> wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I know I will be seeing a lot of you on Sunday. In the meantime, I have a question that I hope someone is available to answer:

If the water system in a chemistry lab is reliant on you having to flush the water every day to have the water be clean in said eye wash, can you still say that the eye wash is meeting standards? What if you expect that water to be that way (acidic with particulates) for at least several months while you are having work done on the supply pipes? If the eye wash is not meeting standards, can you legally hold a chemistry class in there that works with corrosives? Or, do you have to close down the lab until portable eye wash solution can be provided?

I really appreciate any advice you can give me about this.

Thank you,
Monique

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Environmental Safety and Laboratories Manager

School of Arts & Sciences

Gwynedd Mercy University

1325 Sumneytown Pike
P.O. Box 901
Gwynedd Valley, PA 19437

e-mail:kaufmann.h**At_Symbol_Here**gmercyu.edu

Maguire Hall 236

215-646-7300 x21489

Fax: 215-542-4604

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