From: "Wilhelm, Monique" <mwilhelm**At_Symbol_Here**UMFLINT.EDU>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] HCl concentration and hazard
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2017 22:24:32 +0000
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Thank you so very much for sharing, Edward. I know many people who will find this information very useful. I agree with your assessment with where the disconnect for safety in K-12 comes from: just like many other things, everyone is assuming that someone else will do it.

Best,
Monique Wilhelm
Laboratory Manager/Adjunct Lecturer/Chem Club Co-Advisor
Department of Chemistry & Biochemistry
University of Michigan-Flint
Flint, MI 48502


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From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU] On Behalf Of McGrath Edward J
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 8:44 AM
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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] HCl concentration and hazard

OOH OOH!!! Pick me! Pick me!!

There are several good sources for the issue of liabilities of schools regarding chemical safety, waste issues in schools, etc.

1) Stroud, L., & Roy, K. (2015). Science Laboratory Safety Manual 3rd Edition. Raleigh, NC: Science & Safety Consulting Services. (https://www.nsta.org/store/product_detail.aspx?id=10.2505/9780978879617)

This is a pretty comprehensive source of all kinds of safety resources of all kinds designed for K-12 settings. It addresses liability (including details from all states, whether under state OSHA plans or federal OSHA), better practices, PPE, biologicals, the works. It's also about 400 pages, but in just over a year, my copy is pretty dog-eared.


2) Ryan, K. (2001) Science Classroom Safety and the Law. Batavia, IL: Flinn Scientific, Inc. (https://www.flinnsci.com/science-classroom-safety-and-the-law---a-handbook-for-teachers/ap6118/) Written by Kelly Ryan, esq, this is a short guide to explain Duty of Care 101 for high school teachers and administrators. It includes several case studies of cases over the years. The only problem: being that the publication date is 2001, it is rather dated, and many of the cases date from the 1950s and earlier.

3) http://www.nsta.org/safety/ This is a little known resource from the National Science Teachers Association, the premiere professional organization for science teachers from grades preK-16. This is a series of guidance documents, resources, and NSTA position papers that provide information on a wide range of topics related to science/laboratory/field safety for educators. Suggestion: Check the site sometime after April 15. The national NSTA conference is March 29-April 1, and the Safety Advisory Board always meets to present, discuss, and approve new resources. These new resources are generally on the site after April 15.

Please share with any science teachers in any grade that you know. There is frequently a huge disconnect regarding science safety. Administrators assume science teachers learned about science safety in their pre-service education. Science teachers assume they will pick up science safety through professional development offerings in their school or school district. Generally, they are both wrong, and the unfortunate result shows up in the Chemical Safety Headlines from Google that Ralph shares with us.

Eddie McGrath

Edward J. McGrath
Supervisor of Science
Red Clay Consolidated School District
1502 Spruce Avenue
Wilmington, DE 19805

(302) 552-3768

We did not inherit the Earth from our parents. We borrowed it from our children.

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From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU] On Behalf Of Stuart, Ralph
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 8:26 AM
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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] HCl concentration and hazard

> I also noticed that there were no instructions on what to do with the waste solutions.
>
Some of the high school teachers pointed this out as a significant concern, as well as the difference between the hazards of the preparation steps that they would be doing compared to the hazards of the students' work.

Another issue that arose was concern about where personal and institutional liabilities lay in case of an unexpected chemistry lab event; I know that this is a quite complicated issue, but does anyone know of a good, user-friendly guide on this topic for either high school or undergrad teaching lab settings? I'm thinking more in terms of how a prudent teacher approaches this issue before an event than after one.

Thanks to all for the thoughts people have shared on this topic on list and off.

- Ralph

Ralph Stuart, CIH, CCHO
Environmental Safety Manager
Keene State College
603 358-2859

ralph.stuart**At_Symbol_Here**keene.edu

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