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Well, Harry, no actually. "No data available," or the statement that the data is not "sufficient to meet criteria" are required statements in the E.U. SDS version. ECHA is doing some pretty good searchs for those 10 gold standard test for Section 11. I'm seeing pretty consistent SDSs on many chemicals from multible sources now.
I'm actually not interested in extrapolations from some anecdotal stuff from some medical journal or information in some peer reviewed journal that obliquely is related to the toxicity of that chemical. It is those specific 10 tests that are the required information. And after much thought, I think the E.U. is right to require these specific and comparable tests on all chemicals. It's a better plan than all of the speculation and extrapoltion from other data and the in silico guess which are only as good as the limited data available for input.
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So my procedure will still be get to the major exporters and manufacturers SDSs that meet the E.U. standards and if the "no data available" is seen after any particular one of the blanks for the 10 Section 11 tests, then there is "no data" as far as I'm concerned.
And I DEARLY HOPE that the TTIP will not be ratified and the E.U. will not be forced to accept products that "meet U.S. standards" (which means: accepting our untested products), the the E.U. activists will again pick up their cudgels and institute their "no data, no market" policy for the 30.000 HPV chemcials in 2018 as planned. That will raise a major boil on the backside of the chemical producers.
Damn, we gotta do SOMETHING, and this is as close to a plan to force industry to test significant number of chemicals as I've seen. The Chemical Safety Act's plan to test 20 chemicals in the next 5 years is like going elephant hunting with a pea shooter.
And if you think this can't work, think about the fact that OSHA would not have a whole new GHS hazcom rule if the E.U.'s import deadlines had not forced the U.S. to insitutute it. They CAN make this happen. Maletov to them.
Monona Rossol, M.S., M.F.A., Industrial Hygienist
President: Arts, Crafts & Theater Safety, Inc.
Safety Officer: Local USA829, IATSE
181 Thompson St., #23
New York, NY 10012 212-777-0062
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For more information about the list, contact the Divisional secretary at secretary**At_Symbol_Here**dchas.orgMonona - People do not write "no data" on SDSs because they do not check every single source of information to write the SDS, such as behind-paywall peer-reviewed journals or toxicology anthologies. They check reasonable, and generally publically available, sources of information. A single point of information may not reflect the actual toxicology of the compound. This doesn't even get into the discussion of "how reliable is the information?" question.
As long as manufacturers determine the content of the SDSs, there will always be information that is incorrect or missing. It's up to us to fill in the gaps.
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How I wish there was a way to add a short phrase providing readers with invormation on what is NOT known about any chemicals involved in the process. How helpful it would be if, like the E.U. version of the SDS, Section 11, there was clear indications of those hazards for which there is "no data" such as cancer, reproductive, STOT acute and chronic. If only hazards that are "known" are menotioned, Chemists will do the same thing that ordinary consumers do: they will assume the hazards "known" are essentially all the hazards these chemicals have.
Monona Rossol, M.S., M.F.A., Industrial Hygienist
President: Arts, Crafts & Theater Safety, Inc.
Safety Officer: Local USA829, IATSE
181 Thompson St., #23
New York, NY 10012 212-777-0062
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Subject: [DCHAS-L] C&EN Safety Zone blog: [New post] ACS journals enact new safety policy
New post on The Safety Zone
ACS journals enact new safety policy
From my story at C&EN:
American Chemical Society journals will have a new safety reporting requirement starting in 2017: Authors must "address and emphasize any unexpected, new, and/or significant hazards or risks associated with the reported work," says an ACS Central Science editorial describing the change (2016, DOI: 10.1021/acscentsci.6b00341).
ACS Publications editors and staff took a closer look at how the journals addressed safety after a "confluence of events" that included high-profile accidents and a survey of safety policies of chemical journals (J. Chem. Health Saf. 2016, DOI: 10.1016/j.jchas.2015.10.001), says Sarah Tegen, vice president for global editorial and author services at ACS. ACS also publishes C&EN. Previously, individual journals set their own safety policies.
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