From: davivid <davivid**At_Symbol_Here**WELL.COM>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] A Conundrum
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 10:52:48 -0700
Reply-To: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU>
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Think of it this way...

Would you want to be the employee who decided that out of all the
chemicals your company sells *this* one doesn't require an SDS?

D

On 25/9/16 1:37 PM, Alan Hall wrote:
> When does the idiocy become reality?
>
> Water water Everywhere, but not a drop to drink. And Air about 19.5% O2
> and the rest N2 and trace gases. Sea water.Try it at 4 ATA. And someone
> want to tell me how much it costs to install a water shower. Looked it up;
> usually several hundred to serveral thousand dollars.
>
> And AIR at1 ATA. You need a bloody SDS to tell you about there things?
> Where did I leave my hat?
>
> Maybe I should go back to teaching at a School of Public Health.
>
> Alan
> Alan H.Hall, M.D.
>
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 8:32 AM, Wilhelm, Monique
> wrote:
>
>> Hey, now that you mention it, they still haven't sent us an SDS for the
>> water they are supplying.
>>
>> Monique Wilhelm
>> University of Michigan-Flint
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Jim
>> Date: 9/25/16 5:43 AM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] A Conundrum
>>
>> Unless you happen to live in Flint, MI! ... Jim
>>
>> Laboratory Safety Institute (LSI)
>> www.labsafetyinstitute.org
>> 508.647.1900 (w)
>> 508-574-6264 (c)
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: McGrath Edward J
>> Date: 09/24/2016 8:22 AM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] A Conundrum
>>
>> I think Edward Movitz has answered the conundrum: it boils down (sorry,
>> couldn't resist) to the origin. If water is purchased from a chemical
>> supply company, the company must provide an SDS according to GHS. If
>> water is piped in through the plumbing, there are regulations for what
>> comes out of the spigot. I keep a copy of an SDS of H2O as liquid water
>> on hand for my schools.
>>
>> However, recognizing that my world is the K-12 science classes, the two
>> main hazards posed by water (absent other chemicals) are 1) dangers of
>> boiling water and 2) the slippery and almost invisible nature of water
>> spilled on a linoleum floor. Neither of these appears on the SDS but both
>> have resulted in student (and teacher) injuries.
>>
>> One more water joke:
>>
>> Johnny was a chemist's son
>> But now he is no more.
>> For what he thought was H2O
>> Was H2SO4.
>>
>> Cheers everybody
>>
>> Eddie McGrath
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Galaxy Tabå¨ A
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Edward Movitz
>> Date: 9/24/16 8:06 AM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] A Conundrum
>>
>> Fisher scientific sell HPLC grade water with the sds located at:
>> https://www.fishersci.com/shop/msdsproxy?productName=
>> W51&productDescription=WATER+HPLC+1LITER&catNo=W5-1&
>> vendorId=VN00033897&storeId=10652
>> ...
>>
>>
>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 5:28 AM, Patricia Redden >> mailto:predden**At_Symbol_Here**SAINTPETERS.EDU>> wrote:
>>
>> You might want to check out the website www.dhmo.org<http://www.dhmo.org>,
>> which has an MSDS for dihydrogen monoxide (DHMO).
>>
>> Pat Redden
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Ben Ruekberg >> > wrote:
>> My curiosity will not allow me to wait until April first, when it might be
>> more excusable, to ask this question.
>>
>> There is a chemical which can be found in almost every laboratory. Most
>> laboratories even have it piped in. There are (M)SDSs for this material
>> and yet, while I am told that we are required to have the (M)SDS for each
>> of the chemicals in our laboratory on hand, I don‰??t believe that many
>> laboratories keep a copy of the (M)SDS for this substance in print. I
>> refer, of course, to water.
>>
>> OK, I hear you saying ‰??Of course no one has the (M)SDS for water on hand.
>> It‰??s water.‰?? And I agree: I mean it‰??s in the safety showers, we wash our
>> hands with it before leaving the lab. But it‰??s a chemical. I can
>> understand why I would make an exception for it, but does OSHA?
>>
>> Can anyone tell me why safety documentation is not required for water? Or
>> is it? Or is it, but no one makes a fuss about it?
>>
>> Thank you very much,
>>
>> Ben
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