From: Monona Rossol <0000012821515289-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**listserv.med.cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] New Publications from ACS Committee on Chemical Safety
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 12:04:14 -0400
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Kirk:  Lurk on.  And when you are upgrading the document, my comments come free and I'd be more than willing to help.



Monona Rossol, M.S., M.F.A., Industrial Hygienist
President:  Arts, Crafts & Theater Safety, Inc.
Safety Officer: Local USA829, IATSE
181 Thompson St., #23
New York, NY 10012     212-777-0062
actsnyc**At_Symbol_Here**cs.com   www.artscraftstheatersafety.org

 


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From: Kirk Hunter <kphunter**At_Symbol_Here**TSTC.EDU>
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Sent: Wed, Aug 24, 2016 11:34 am
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] New Publications from ACS Committee on Chemical Safety

Monona,

Thank you for your observation/criticism you made in Point 1.  Consider the guidelines to be a starting point - the basics. Instructors/faculty/staff are invited to add whatever they feel is missing and appropriate for their circumstance as they design chemical safety programs.

I would assume that as a student progresses in their education, especially at the graduate level, their understanding of toxicity and exposure routes would include physiology. I would also include they should have a full understanding of the EH&S definitions of gases, vapors, dust, fumes, etc. that you mentioned. I'm sure that there will be a revision to these documents sometime in the future and your suggestions will be considered.

Again, thank you for your interest and time in commenting on the Guidelines!

Kirk Hunter
Co-Chair
Task Force for Safety Education Guidelines

p.s. I've been lurking and learning from this list for quite a while.This is my first post.

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On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 10:07 AM, Monona Rossol <0000012821515289-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**listserv.med.cornell.edu> wrote:
POINT ONE.  I got the guidelines and they are going to be very helpful.  I would make a tiny criticism (no surprise) that the list of concepts students should be taught in order to do a risk assessment doe not include the physiology needed to understand routes of entry and how different the toxicity of a chemical may be by different routes.  

Also when I train chemists, I find they don't know the EH&S version of the definitions of gas, vapor, fume, dust (inhalable, respirable and nanoparticles), mists and smoke. I'd include this, too.

POINT TWO.  Now, I'm going to ask you all, who I consider my pals and sparing partners, to help me with a problem that is related to this document.  I need to convince a major university to cease requiring their art faculty to do risk assessments.  They have e-mailed them volumes of information on risk assessments and their obligations. The faculty is completely confused and upset by this download.  They don't understand a word of it.  There is not one of the members of this faculty that could possibly qualify as "competent" to do a risk assessment.  

Should someone in the art faculty be trained to do this?  Absolutely.  But EH&S cannot do this in a couple of seminars. The training is going to have to start from scratch since these people usually have had no chemistry at all.

And I think EH&S is unaware that highly toxic metals (lead, cadmium, etc.) highly toxic organic chemicals (pigments and dyes based on benzidine, aniline, anthraquinone, etc.), vast numbers of different and sometimes very complex solvents (in alkyd paints, thinners, accelerators, retardants, etc.), acids for etching and patina, and more are used. These are often the same chemicals used by chemists, except artists use them the open and in traditional ways that involve exposure.

EH&S is also unaware that art material labels and SDSs are faulty, purposely deceptive, or they withhold important information -- such as the names of the F*n ingredients.

I certainly will use these ACS guidelines to help make my case about what should be included in the training, but any additional ammunition from you people, especially from EH&S people with jurisdictions that include art departments, would be appreciated.


Monona Rossol, M.S., M.F.A., Industrial Hygienist
President:  Arts, Crafts & Theater Safety, Inc.
Safety Officer: Local USA829, IATSE
181 Thompson St., #23
New York, NY 10012     212-777-0062

 


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Sent: Fri, Aug 19, 2016 6:10 am
Subject: [DCHAS-L] New Publications from ACS Committee on Chemical Safety

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.acs.org_content_acs_en_about_governance_committees_chemicalsafety.html&d=DQIFaQ&c=lb62iw4YL4RFalcE2hQUQealT9-RXrryqt9KZX2qu2s&r=meWM1Buqv4IQ27AlK1OJRjcQl09S1Zta6YXKalY_Io0&m=WSq6i1ptOC7RWGS9Ao9-ziABapRL5yVvSYQvYT0wTn4&s=n4OYo3FmdFEoFuCdD_CHgbbCaCbT6ofFrVeAXpiH4NU&e=

Guidelines for Chemical Laboratory Safety in Secondary Schools and Guidelines for Chemical Laboratory Safety in Academic Institutions.

To assist educators with integrating safety education throughout the entire chemistry curriculum where principles of safety are taught over time rather than just during one-time safety trainings ACS has published new Guidelines for Chemical Laboratory Safety in Secondary Schools and Guidelines for Chemical Laboratory Safety in Academic Institutions.

The Safety Education Guidelines are organized around the concept of R.A.M.P.. - an acronym for the Four Principles of Safety: Recognize the hazard, Assess the risk of the hazard, Minimize the risk of the hazard, and Prepare for emergencies. The guidelines also include student learning outcomes statements which clearly state the expected knowledge, skills, attitudes, competencies in the area of chemical safety that students are expected to acquire as they progress with their education. To request the printed copy of the guidelines please contact safety**At_Symbol_Here**acs.org.



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