From: Mike Fisher <mfisher**At_Symbol_Here**CECON.COM>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Help with advice for an academic colleague
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 14:32:36 +0000
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Ed,

 

I agree with your thinking.  We are seeing some university clients who are reaching out to us for help in addressing across-the-board safety practices in their labs.  They realize that "fresh eyes" and external support to help change the internal safety culture may be necessary.  Their actions may be reactive or proactive, but I suspect more the former than the latter.  Based on our sampling, academia still has a ways to go to be on par with industrial practices.

 

 

Michael C. Fisher
Group Manager

CECON LLC
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Wilmington, DE 19804-3168


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From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**med.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of McGrath Edward J
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 8:54 AM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Help with advice for an academic colleague

 

Hi everybody:

 

What scares me the most about this response is the phrase "When it was reported as a concern to the safety officer and department chair, the response was that the instructor was a senior faculty member who had been teaching this a long time and knew what he was doing."

 

I have seen many headlines (as we all have) of lab accidents where the teacher in question said something like "I've taught this lesson many times before with no problem, so I don't know why this happened."  The only time "teaching experience" prevents (or reduces the likelihood) of lab accidents is when that experience includes teaching safer practice.

 

Of greater concern, though, is the fact that the safety officer and the department chair ignored reports of unsafe practice.  That kind of disregard needs to be reported to the Board of Education or Board of Directors.

 

As I often say:  we have a lot of work to do.

 

Eddie McGrath

 

Edward J. McGrath

Supervisor of Science

Red Clay Consolidated School District

1502 Spruce Avenue

Wilmington DE  19805

 

(302) 552-3768

 

We did not inherit the Earth from our ancestors.  We borrowed it from our children.

 

 

From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**med.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 8:16 AM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Help with advice for an academic colleague

 

David,

 

I would be happy to talk with them.  This is the type of assistance at which LSI excels.

 

Regards ... Jim

 

Laboratory Safety Institute (LSI)

www.labsafetyinstitute.org 

508.647.1900 (w)

508-574-6264 (c)



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From: "David C. Finster" <dfinster**At_Symbol_Here**WITTENBERG.EDU>
Date: 02/25/2016 7:58 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU
Subject: [DCHAS-L] Help with advice for an academic colleague

CHAS folks,

 

I recently received the inquiry below.   I would appreciate your advice and perspectives, which I can pass along.

 

"I have a friend who is concerned about one of their advanced laboratories. The instructor who teaches it has several hazardous experiments in the curriculum, and there have been sodium fires and other small accidents in the lab. The students don=E2=80™t have much preparation or thorough safety training for each experiment (they often don't know exactly what they'll be doing that day until after they arrive at lab). When it was reported as a concern to the safety officer and department chair, the response was that the instructor was a senior faculty member who had been teaching this a long time and knew what he was doing. The senior faculty member assured them that he didn't think there was any reason for concern, so my friend's requests for the problem to be addressed were essentially ignored. My friend is still quite concerned about laboratory safety (particularly since some staff and students have also expressed concern). I wasn't sure if ACS had any resources beyond the published booklets (which don't help if people won't acknowledge there is a problem). Do you know of any "experts" or other resources who could provide a review or lend some credibility to her concerns?"

 

Thanks.

 

Dave

 

David C. Finster
Professor, Department of Chemistry
University Chemical Hygiene Officer
Wittenberg University
937-327-6441
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dfinster/index.html

 

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