From: Chris A Jakober <cajakober**At_Symbol_Here**UCDAVIS.EDU>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Chemistry classroom fire injures 6
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 00:41:58 +0000
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Addressing the new requirements of NFPA 45 - 2015 would've gone a long way towards prevention as well:

"Laboratory Operations

12.1 General. This chapter provides fire protection and safety requirements for new and existing educational and instructional laboratories where experiments are conducted or demonstrations are performed using hazardous materials.

12.2* Instructor Responsibilities. Where instructors are performing demonstrations or students are conducting experiments using hazardous materials, the instructor shall be required
to perform a documented hazard risk assessment, provide a safety briefing to students, provide adequate personal protective equipment (PPE), and place a safety barrier (as required) between students and the demonstration or experiment to prevent personal injury.

12.2.1* Instructors in teaching labs shall be trained and knowledgeable in fire safety procedures, emergency plans, the hazards present in the lab, the appropriate use of PPE, and how to properly conduct a hazard risk assessment."

Chris

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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 10:04:06 -0700
From: Laurence Doemeny
Subject: Re: Chemistry classroom fire injures 6

While training is helpful the real need is getting the information about the hazard to the teachers and administrators. Apparently some instructors don't know there is a problem.

My suggestion is for the ACS and teacher organizations to jointly contact local and national news media to have a segment on the dangers of some of these demonstrations and how to perform them safely. That should get parent and school administrators attention. This would make a nice PBS Frontline or 60 Minutes segment.

The Chemical Safety Board makes outstanding videos and excellent reports but their reach appears limited.

Laurence Doemeny

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This continues to beg for training for
demonstrators...

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Date: Friday, October 30, 2015 at 3:18 PM
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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Chemistry classroom fire injures 6

I just showed the CSB video to our preteachers this week!
S-

On 10/30/2015 4:00 PM, Harry J. Elston wrote:

Bang Head Here ---> (Rainbow Experiment)

Harry

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Jyllian Kemsley wrote:

"She was demonstrating the experiment ... with the different elements causing the fire to change color, and as the fire was dying down she added more alcohol"

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On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:25 AM, ILPI Support wrote:

Figured this one couldn't wait for Monday's
headlines:

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Two are in serious condition (presumably with
burns). No chemistry details yet. I think we
all have a good guess at what was involved based on unfortunate past experiences, but let's sit tight until there is confirmation.

Rob Toreki


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