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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] off-topic - Fwd: New Pitch - Potential Side Effects of Chlorine Dioxide
Date: Thursday, July 24, 2014 10:11:30 AM
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Subject: [DCHAS-L] CHAS Tweets and Chemical Safety headlines (8 articles)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 07:16:28 -0400
Author: Secretary ACS DCHAS

From: J & K Smith <smith.j.k**At_Symbol_Here**SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] off-topic - Fwd: New Pitch - Potential Side Effects of Chlorine Dioxide
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 15:06:37 -0700
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Hi all,

I have a hunch that the problem originally was due to Giardia. For several years I hiked the back country in the Sierra's Kings Canyon Natl. Park and was exposed to Giardia. According to the experts, all water in the Sierras is considered infected with the bug. I was fortunate that I had few to no symptoms. I imagine that the Appalachians are not different. It is spread from the humans to the animals and then to all water sources. If the water is not properly disinfected or filtered, the infection is opportune. I know of two young women who got it and were desperately ill for about a week.

 

I hope that the irritation is gone and you are feeling better.

 

Ken Smith

Retired Cal/OSHA, ex CIH

 

From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU] On Behalf Of Frankie Wood-Black
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 4:54 AM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] off-topic - Fwd: New Pitch - Potential Side Effects of Chlorine Dioxide

 

Thanks - to everyone - it was educational for me.  I pointed him to the resources mentioned - still suggested he contact a toxicologist.  And told him the comparisons - municipal drinking waters and soft drinks.

I am inclined to agree - any chronic problems are other sources - such as the bugs the stuff doesn't get - by the company's own admission or other exposures along the way. 

 

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Debbie M. Decker <dmdecker**At_Symbol_Here**ucdavis.edu> wrote:

FYI and FWIW -

 

When my dad worked for a beverage company, he hauled tank cars of fruit juice concentrate and soft drink syrups for a beverage manufacturing company in Washington.  He had to have a haz mat endorsement on his commercial driver license because the commodities hauled were considered a corrosive hazard (pH < 2).  The truck didn't have to be placarded because the materials were for human consumption (guess who came to that regulation writing party?) but he did have to have all of the other haz mat requirements in place.  I don't drink fruit juice from concentrate and I rarely drink soda, preferring iced tea and sparkling water.  Or a nice lager on a hot day.  J

 

Cheers, <hah>

Debbie

 

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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Fwd: New Pitch - Potential Side Effects of Chlorine Dioxide: Your request on chlo...

 

Students in my classes usually report false information regarding phosphoric acid in Coca Cola.

 

According to Snopes http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/acid.asp, Coca Cola contains 11 to 13 g phosphoric acid per gallon of syrup.  This works out to be 0.20 to 0.30% of the total formula.   The syrup is diluted with carbonated water for serving so that should reduce the phosphoric acid to 0.02 to 0.03% or less.

 

David

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----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 5:19 AM

Subject: [DCHAS-L] Fwd: New Pitch - Potential Side Effects of Chlorine Dioxide: Your request on chlo...

 

This is a reporter that is looking for some help on a story - anyone what to contact him?  There is a part A and a part B - the part B has phosphoric acid - both MSDSs (SDSs) put out by the company indicate irritation if ingested at large dosages.

I think he needs to have an IH talk with him.

 

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Zach Davis <zachrd99**At_Symbol_Here**gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: New Pitch - Potential Side Effects of Chlorine Dioxide: Your request on chlo...
To: fwblack**At_Symbol_Here**sophicpursuits.com

Hey Frank,

 

I would gladly take you up on your offer to be put in touch with any colleagues you think might be able to help.  

 

One of the most popular water treatment options amongst Appalachian Trail thru-hikers is Aquamira, a chlorine dioxide chemical solution.  As you point out, the dose makes the poison- however due to the extreme demands of long-distance backpacking, it's common to ingest between 5-8 liters of water per day.  Multiply this times 4-6 months (how long it takes to cover the full distance of the trail).  Since my thru-hike in 2011, I have battled severe digestive issues, and I have talked with others (who've used Aquamira) who say the same.  If there is any truth to this being unsafe in high volumes, I'd like to help spread the word and prevent future hikers from suffering.  

 

Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated.

 

Best,

 

Zach


 

On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Frankie Wood-Black <EmailSentBy**At_Symbol_Here**helpareporter.com> wrote:

Hello Zach,

Here's another pitch from a HARO source! Hope you find the perfect match for your story.

Best,

The Vocus Team

---------------------------------

Pitch Title: Your request on chlorine dioxide

Pitch Contents:

You really need to contact the American Chemical Society - they can put
you in touch with the correct person. My recommendation is that you need
to talk with an industrial hygienist as they are more trained in how
chemicals are used/misused and toxicity levels. A chemical toxicologist
is someone else you might talk with. I can put you in touch with a
couple of colleagues of mine that may be able to help. As with most
things it is a matter of dose.

--
<pre>Frankie Wood-Black, Ph.D., REM, MBA
Principal - Sophic Pursuits
www.sophicpursuits.com
6855 Lake Road
Ponca City, OK 74604
fwblack**At_Symbol_Here**sophicpursuits.com
580-761-3703</pre>

Track and Respond: http://app.helpareporter.com/queries/detail/190544

 




--

Frankie Wood-Black, Ph.D., REM, MBA

Principal - Sophic Pursuits

6855 Lake Road

Ponca City, OK 74604




--

Frankie Wood-Black, Ph.D., REM, MBA

Principal - Sophic Pursuits

6855 Lake Road

Ponca City, OK 74604

fwblack**At_Symbol_Here**cableone.net

580-761-3703

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