From: "Debbie M. Decker" <dmdecker**At_Symbol_Here**UCDAVIS.EDU>
To:
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Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 12:45:
46 PM
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Odor
Personal Fave: d
uring the "white powder" heightened awareness several years ago, I respon
ded to a call about a white powder that had contaminated a student backpack
. I arrived on scene to find a very frightened young person, her
professor and classmates, milling about waiting for "someone" who could "
do something."
I asked her where her backpack was and she pointed to
her backpack, against the front wall of the classroom, under a blackbo
ard (you can see it coming). Had she noticed any white powder on he
r backpack before class? No, not until this class. And th
en I gently pointed out that she had dropped her backpack under the blackbo
ard and the white powder was probably chalk dust and she could just dust it
off. No, she didn't want to chance it. I explained to he
r that I was happy to take her backpack away and put it into the incinerato
r drum we had at the haz waste facility for these types of situations. &nbs
p;But once she made that decision, she would not be able to access her
backpack and it would be shipped to Utah, to the fiery furnace.
Ta
king a deep breath, she decided it probably was chalk dust and that takin
g away her backpack wouldn't be necessary. Brave girl. :-)
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From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto
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Sent: Thursday, July
28, 2011 8:55 AM
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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] O
dor
popcorn actually..late afternoon after long day .. respond to a
call of
burning odor.. travel across long building to office of complain
t. He
says it smells like burnt popcorn and takes me to the offi
ce door of
where he feels the smell originates.. knock at door and perso
n answers
door with bag of popcorn in hand.
Top notch IH work ..
Sorry I could not resist either and we all have
a million stor
ies like this one but certainly better things to do as
well so my apolog
ies for continuation..
Kenneth Kretchman, CSP, CIH
Director
, Environmental Health and Safety
NC State University
Raleigh, N
C 27695-8007
919-515-6860 (p)
919-515-6307 (f)
ken_kretchman**At_Symbol_Here**ncsu.
edu
>>> Mark Grossman <qed**At_Symbol_Here**WESTN
ET.COM> 7/27/2011 8:33 PM >>>
Then, of course, t
he root cause could have been the employee who left
Chrysler to go to I
BM and then decided to pursue higher education at
North
Carolina Sta
te, leaving a trail of old fruit along the way.
Sorry, couldn't
resist! :-)
Mark
Mark I. Grossman, CIH, CSP
Br
iarcliff Manor, NY 10510
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From: "K
en Kretchman" <ken_kretchman**At_Symbol_Here**NCSU.EDU>
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Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 2:07 PM
Subject: Re:
[DCHAS-L] Odor
> Interesting.. I'm ex-IBM and had the exac
t "moldy orange" experience
> listed below here at NC State.  
;Only different is the desk was in a
> complex lab area.
These can certainly be tough to pinpoint.
>
> Some of these
can be quite a task to pinpoint. Dry traps, wet
> insulation,
etc ... A number of years ago we blew theatrical smoke
into
> th
e waste line vent pipe on the roof of our chemistry building after
a
> frustrating run of fugitive odors and had facilities personnel
mo
ving
> through labs in the building to spot emissions. We f
ound more that
one
> area with compromised waste drain plumbing.
>
>
>
>
> Kenneth Kretchman, CSP
, CIH
> Director, Environmental Health and Safety
> NC
State University
> Raleigh, NC 27695-8007
> 919-515-6860
(p)
> 919-515-6307 (f)
> ken_kretchman**At_Symbol_Here**ncsu.edu
><
BR>>
>
>>>> Alan Hall <ahalltoxic**At_Symbol_Here**
MSN.COM> 7/27/2011 1:49 PM >>>
>
> Rach
el,
>
> Since it is a microbiology laboratory, have you
considered any of
the
> biological organisms that contribute to
the problem of "Athlete's
foot"
> (some are odoriferous fungi)
that might be being grown/incubated?
Could
> there be some cult
ures of such in there? Certainly, many "moldy"
odors
>
are actually from biological organisms. Could it in fact be that"dirty
> socks" are actually dirty socks (as in someone's overloo
ked gym
bag)?
>
> I'm reminded of a case at a major IBM
facility a friend of mine
> investigated some years ago of "sick bu
ilding syndrome" in an office
> area that turned out to be a "lost"
mouldy orange buried beneath
> paperwork in a worker's lower desk
drawer (after an expensive IH
> evaluation of multiple worker odor
complaints had already been
done).
>
> Just a thought.>
> Alan
> Alan H. Hall, M.D.
> Medical To
xicologist.
>
>
>
>
> Date: Wed,
27 Jul 2011 10:57:04 +0000
> From: patty.olinger**At_Symbol_Here**EMORY.EDU
>
; Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Odor
> To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU
>
;
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Rachel
, Obviously from the responses you=92ve received there
could> be several possibilities. Dry traps are usually a good one
to start
> with. If you (and your facilities and research
staff) have
exhausted
> all possibilities there is also somethin
g called =93dirty sock
> syndrome=94. Google it and you wil
l see many reference and
> discussions. Here is a link with
an explanation.
>
>
http://www.foxservice.com/austin/kn
owledge_base.asp?ID=1291219433792&_perPg=40&view=articles
&_category=Residential%3A%3AAir%20Conditioning%20%26%20Heating%20&a
mp;_filterField=Categories
>
>
> We recentl
y had an issue that people described as dirty socks, sewer
> gas
, etc. After several months found the odor by reviewing the floor
>
; plan of the building and following the pipes in the walls. We f
ound
a
> couple of uncapped pipes that were no longer in use.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Patty
>
>
;
> Patty Olinger, RBP
> Director EHSO
> Emory
University
> 1762 Clifton Rd., Suite 1200
> M.S. 0940-001
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; "Harrington, Rachel" <rachel.harrington**At_Symbol_Here**ROSALINDFRANKLIN.EDU>
; wrote:
> We have a strong =93dirty socks=94 odor present in one
of our micro
> labs. It=92s a pretty typical lab using med
ia and cultures, etc.
and
> we are systematically removing ev
erything and deconning but this odor
is
> persisting. I
know I have smelt this chemical before, maybe back in
my
> und
ergraduate days, but it is really a sickening odor. Any ideas? Any
> help is greatly appreciated. Thank you!
>> Rachel E. Harrington, MPH, CHMM
> Director- Office of
Environmental, Health and Safety
> Rosalind Franklin University o
f Medicine and Science
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> North Chicag
o, IL 60064
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