Good morning-- Aside from the hazard issues, there may also be a regulatory problem with open access to certain chemicals (ex. DEA List I & II chemicals). You'd need to check the federal/state/local regulations (DEA, Dept. of Homeland Security, TTB, etc.) on what security they require, what reports need to be filed, etc. My knowledge of these regs. is based upon the seller's responsibilities, not the end-users responsibilities. With open access, you're relying on the faculty to accurately complete the log, (with the potential for excuses such as ...I'm in a hurry, I'll come back & fill in the log later; I think the log's another wasted exercise, why should I waste my time; ...)If the access is limited to dedicated stockroom personnel, filling out that log & keeping the inventory balanced would be/should be part of their job. In my personal opinion, at a minimum, removing chemicals from a storeroom should involve as much documentation as removing a book from the library. Beth Beth Shepard / Technical Compliance Specialist Regulatory Compliance 6000 N. Teutonia Ave. / Milwaukee, WI 53209 / USA P: (414) 438-3850, x5471 sigma-aldrich.com Patrick A CeasSent by: DCHAS-L Discussion List 01/17/2011 09:10 PM Please respond to DCHAS-L Discussion List To DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU cc Subject [DCHAS-L] access to chemical stockroom Hi all, I know that this or a similar question has been asked before, but please allow me to ask it once again in a simplified form: For your central chemical storeroom, how is access to chemicals controlled? (assume that the person who is picking up the chemical is wearing appropriate PPE & uses an appropriate transport container): (a) Open Access: all faculty are allowed to enter and take what they want as long as they log the user & amount. (b) Closed Access: no faculty are allowed to enter, and only a few individuals (e.g., trained stockroom employees) have access to the chemicals; faculty request a chemical, and that chemical(s) is either delivered or can be picked up from a check-out window. (c) Limited Access: all faculty have "Open Access" to a subset of chemicals with "lower" hazard ratings and they can simply log out the amount taken; however, for chemicals with "higher" hazard ratings (e.g., NFPA of 3 or 4) it is "Closed Access." Thanks. Feel free to reply directly to me or to the list. Pat -- Dr. Patrick Ceas 312 Regents Hall of Natural Sciences St. Olaf College Northfield, MN 55057 507-786-3560 This message and any files transmitted with it are the property of Sigma-Aldrich Corporation, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the person or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not one of the named recipient(s) or otherwise have reason to believe that you have received this message in error, please contact the sender and delete this message immediately from your computer. Any other use, retention, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. text/html;
Good morning--Aside from the hazard issues, there may also be a regulatory problem with open access to certain chemicals (ex. DEA List I & II chemicals). You'd need to check the federal/state/local regulations (DEA, Dept. of Homeland Security, TTB, etc.) on what security they require, what reports need to be filed, etc. My knowledge of these regs. is based upon the seller's responsibilities, not the end-users responsibilities.
With open access, you're relying on the faculty to accurately complete the log, (with the potential for excuses such as ...I'm in a hurry, I'll come back & fill in the log later; I think the log's another wasted exercise, why should I waste my time; ...)If the access is limited to dedicated stockroom personnel, filling out that log & keeping the inventory balanced would be/should be part of their job.
In my personal opinion, at a minimum, removing chemicals from a storeroom should involve as much documentation as removing a book from the library.
Beth
Beth Shepard / Technical Compliance Specialist
Regulatory Compliance
6000 N. Teutonia Ave. / Milwaukee, WI 53209 / USA
P: (414) 438-3850, x5471
sigma-aldrich.com
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Hi all,I know that this or a similar question has been asked before, but please allow me to ask it once again in a simplified form: For your central chemical storeroom, how is access to chemicals controlled? (assume that the person who is picking up the chemical is wearing appropriate PPE & uses an appropriate transport container):
(a) Open Access: all faculty are allowed to enter and take what they want as long as they log the user & amount.
(b) Closed Access: no faculty are allowed to enter, and only a few individuals (e.g., trained stockroom employees) have access to the chemicals; faculty request a chemical, and that chemical(s) is either delivered or can be picked up from a check-out window.
(c) Limited Access: all faculty have "Open Access" to a subset of chemicals with "lower" hazard ratings and they can simply log out the amount taken; however, for chemicals with "higher" hazard ratings (e.g., NFPA of 3 or 4) it is "Closed Access."Thanks. Feel free to reply directly to me or to the list.
Pat
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Dr. Patrick Ceas
312 Regents Hall of Natural Sciences
St. Olaf College
Northfield, MN 55057
507-786-3560
This message and any files transmitted with it are the property of Sigma-Aldrich Corporation, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the person or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not one of the named recipient(s) or otherwise have reason to believe that you have received this message in error, please contact the sender and delete this message immediately from your computer. Any other use, retention, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited.
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