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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 19:10:29 -0400
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From: "Samuella B. Sigmann" <sigmannsb**At_Symbol_Here**APPSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: {Disarmed} Re: [DCHAS-L] Lab safety showers
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That's the kind of regulation that gives safety a bad reputation. I
have never understood this argument - that showers and eyewashes cannot
be plumbed because hazardous materials might get in the water system.
Good grief, I put a larger amount of hazardous materials in my toilet
when I clean it.
Not to mention that if am the one mopping it up - guess where I am going
to ring the mop out? Yep, in the sink. Maybe if it is an acid, we can
dump some bicarb in the water while the person decontaminates. That way
it will be neutralized and ok to dispose of down the drain (at least in
my state) :-)
Sammye
Betsy Shelton wrote:
> I am currently involved in construction of two new laboratories and
> was instructed by the city commercial building review department to
> include a 1" high curb around the shower area to keep hazmat from
> entering the floor drain in the event of a spill. Also, the curb has
> to be sloped on both sides to allow accessibility.
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Betsy Shelton
> 512.636.1905
> retrosynthesis**At_Symbol_Here**gmail.com
>
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Gordon Kroemer > wrote:
>
> I use a 55-gallon drum, too, but have installed a small pond pump
> with a hose that can be run to where needed. This way the drum
> doesn’t need to be moved with the attendant spill OR injury
> issues. It is moved with an ordinary hand truck. This process is
> done monthly here and we can smell the clorine in the water, so
> imho the system is well flushed.
>
> Gordon J. Kroemer, CSP, NRCC-CHO
> Director, Office of EHS
> Linfield College
> 900 SE Baker Street, A508
> McMinnville, OR 97128
> 503-883-2431
> 503-883-2204 fax
>
>
>
> On 23/10/10 13:04, "DAVID KATZ" <*Appalachian's MailScanner has
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> to be* dakatz45**At_Symbol_Here**MSN.COM > wrote:
>
> At a previous place of employment, we took a 55-gallon drum,
> had it fitted with a standard water spigot on the side near
> the bottom, and built a cart with wheels for it. The cart was
> high enough that a garden-type hose, attached to the spigot
> could be placed in a low sink so that the water could easily
> be drained. The cart was low enough to avoid a high center of
> gravity, so it would not tip over easily. The wheels should
> be able to be locked. It was easy to roll the semi-filled
> drum to an appropriate sink, or, if one was close by, just
> place the end of the hose into it. We kept the hose short
> (under 10 feet) to keep it from being snaked across a room.
>
> David
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> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Karen Smith
>
> *To:* DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU
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> *Sent:* Friday, October 22, 2010 8:51 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [DCHAS-L] Lab safety showers
>
>
> Last May ANSI introduced standards that require an annual
> full 15
> minute flush and calculation of the flow rate of eye
> washes and
> showers. As the person that checks all 64 eyewashes/
> showers on
> campus let me say that floor drains would've been a
> godsend. My
> showers will fill a 30 gallon bucket anywhere from 30
> seconds to 1
> minute. I tried using a sump pump to direct the water
> into a sink,
> but those drains are overwhelmed in 3 minutes. Where I
> have windows
> that will open, I run the hose out the building. For
> those that I
> don't have windows I haven't come up with a good solution
> yet. Ideas
> anyone? Physical plant has told me just to run hose
> from the lab on
> the 3rd floor all the way through the building and out
> the front
> door. I understand the reasoning behind prohibiting
> floor drains -
> but can't they come up with drains that will remain
> closed until
> someone opens them?
>
>
> Karen Smith, CSMM
> Chemistry Stockroom Manager/ CHO
> Whitman College
> 345 Boyer Ave.
> Walla Walla, WA 99362
> 509 527-5272
>
> On Oct 20, 2010, at 4:21 PM, List Moderator wrote:
>
> > From: "Celia K. Williams" <*Appalachian's MailScanner has
> detected a possible fraud attempt from "ckvibe**At_Symbol_Here**gmail.com"
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> > Date: October 20, 2010 7:19:40 PM EDT
> > Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Lab safety showers
> >
> >
> > Has anyone recently installed safety showers in their
> labs? Do you
> > have any tips you may share. We are following the ANSI
> standard but
> > are there are recent guidelines?
> > Thanks
> > Celia
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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