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Subject: chemical reductions/reactions
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:35:37 -0700
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:50:55 +0200
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From: "Halim A. Hasan" <HALI**At_Symbol_Here**LUNDBECK.COM>
Subject: Re: chemical reductions/reactions
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Kathleen,
 
It sounds as if you (the generator) have made the determination that they are waste, in which case, doing anything except neutralization in the container is considered treatment, for which you need a permit. Purely hypothetically, you may want to not designate these as waste just yet, and consider them commercial chemical products, for which you can trea t them (chemically alter), but once you determine that they are waste, treatm ent to make less hazardous is not an option (without a permit).
 
Halim

From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**list.uvm.edu] On Behalf Of Kathleen Fisher
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 1:36 PM
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Subject: [DCHAS-L] chemical reductions/reactions

Hello, all.

We are in the process of shipping out hazardous waste.  We have three compounds:
1.  Trinitroresourcinal --maybe 50 g in a plastic bottle
2.  Dipic rylamine -- 25 g in a glass bottle
3.  Trinitrofluorenone --  5 g  in a glass bottle and 10 g in a glass bottle< FONT face=Garamond>

All are well h ydrated, but our haz waste "picker-uppers" can not transport them as they are not licensed to ship DOT 1.1 materials .  We have contacted USDOT to see if any special permits are issued for the chemicals in question that would allow re-classification to something other than Class 1 explosive.

Barring a DOT special permit or the expense of using a licensed explosive transporter, we would like to reduce these compounds chemically.  To all you chemists out there, we are in need of protocols/procedures that allow us to reduce in order to reclassify them safely to an organic solvent or some other relatively benign compound.  Can/would you help?

Thank you.

Kathleen Fisher
Reed College EHS
Portland, OR

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