Russ, quite ironic your asking this question. Yesterday my boss was telling me a story, which I am going to tell because it has huge relevance to this group, but also answers your question in a smaller way. one day, he was called by a local high school for an emergency lab pack/fire clean up. when he got there, a teacher (or what appeared to be a teacher) was being carried out on a stretcher. The lab was a complete war zone. Here's what happened. While cleaning up the lab of old chemicals (something a "science" teacher should not be doing, and job that should be left to a scientists) he came upon a small degrading drum of oil with some solid clumps on the bottom. At this point I was histerical in the story because I immediately knew where this story was going, and you, my fellow scientists probably know also. Anyway, he decided to consolidate this oil with other oils and dispose of the rusty old drum and crap on the bottom. So he rinsed out the drum and KAAAABOOOOOOOOOM. Rocket scientist did not recognize a pyrophoric material what he saw one. Lucky for him the fume hood was almost completely closed and his injuries were mostly from flash and the shrapnel blowing through the hood (as well as the shrapnel formally known as hood). For the record, it was metallic sodium. So my boss was called in the finish the job. Apparently the teacher was new, and all this crap was from the 1940's when kids weren't stupid and science was more important then formulating an excuse for Darwin. So back then these were the toys. He found some radioactive salts and apparently was able to sell them to the local university. Granted, were talking about SUNY Stony Brook with its intensive science programs and use for the salts, you might find a similar school near you (penn state?) Summary of the story: 1.KISS (Keep it simple STUPID) Remember when you were taught water and oil don't mix? WELL THEY DON'T!!!!! 2.When in doubt, call a professional. 3.Reciting a lower level text book to 20 people does not make you an expert . 4.Pyrophorics can be fun in the right hands 5.Universities will pay you for things that you don't want anymore (that ones for you Russ) 6.The 1940's were far cooler then today, just look at the toys they had. 7.And I will write another email for this one...DON'T PUT NITRILE GLOVES IN A MUFFLE FURNACE TO SEE WHAT WILL HAPPEN!!!!! Andrew Gross Senior (and occasionally reckless) Chemist Environmental Testing Labs, NY On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Russ Phiferwrote: > A local laboratory here has four bottles of thorium and uranium salts the y=92d > like to get rid of.=A0 Looking into it, I found it was going to cost clos e to > $4000 to transport and dispose of less than a pound of material at a > facility in Houston; this is the only facility I can find that will accep t > this material.=A0 These are not RCRA hazardous, and the radioactivity has to > be extremely low.=A0 The DOT numbers are 2909 and 2910; there doesn=92t a ppear > to be any difficulty shipping them. > > > > My question is - what are other labs doing to dispose of this type of > material?=A0 Is it possible to encase them in concrete or another inert > material and dispose in a municipal system?=A0 Is there anyone recycling these > salts?=A0 Any ideas? > > > > Thanks=85. > > > > Russ Phifer > > > > Russ Phifer > > WC Environmental, LLC > > 1085C Andrew Drive > > West Chester, PA=A0 19380 > > 610-696-9220x12/ fax 610-344-7519 > > rphifer**At_Symbol_Here**wcenvironmental.com > > > > P Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing this > e-mail or any other document > >
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