Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 13:16:17 -0400
Reply-To: Phil Anderson <panderson**At_Symbol_Here**AQUASCIENCE.COM>
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From: Phil Anderson <panderson**At_Symbol_Here**AQUASCIENCE.COM>
Subject: Re: Hands-on extinguisher training
Comments: To: "Lazarski, Peter M."
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This depends on what you may mean as "Hands-on" training. I have worked for a company that did what I consider an excellent job of training in this area. But it was not "hands-on" in the strictest sense (there weren't enough fire extingusishers in our home town for that!) It did, however, have an actual fire and it DID allow some participation including a representative amount of hands-on with a "live" extinguisher. The best way to get there is to use a CO2 extinguisher, and allow as many people (especially "girly-girls") to shoot off a little CO2 at the base of a flame, just to see how the thing actually operates and what it feels like when it is used. The basic premise is not that there is an acccidental spill of (potentially) flammable liquid (like methanol/ethanol) but that there is a fire, which also may include wood, etc. Another key concept is that there are different types of extinguishers, and not all are appropriate for all fires. If the available types are not appropriate to the fire-stuffs, they should be changed out. Phil -----Original Message----- From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of Lazarski, Peter M. Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 12:03 PM To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: [DCHAS-L] Hands-on extinguisher training I'd be interested in hearing peoples' views on hands-on fire extinguisher training. I recently attended a seminar on laboratory accreditation and an OSHA presenter, when talking about training and the lab standard, mentioned yearly extinguisher training (once every three years if fork lift trucks are in use). My company currently has people who perform the hands on training which we've taken advantage of in the past. (Unfortunately they've never been interested in my idea of simulating the breaking of a container [quart or gallon] of flammable liquid to illustrate how wide spread the resulting fire might be.) Periodically our Safety dept. sends out a video on fire safety which some view as a substitute for hands-on training. I'm trying to contact this individual for clarification. The information contained in this e-mail message and any attachments may be confidential. It is intended only for the use of the individual or entities named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail at the originating address. Peter Lazarski National Grid USA Chemical Laboratory, Bldg. 1 7437 Henry Clay Blvd. Liverpool, NY 13088 (315)460-2114 ************************************************************************ ******** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it, are confidential to National Grid and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error, please reply to this message and let the sender know. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

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